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''You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.''
''You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.''


== This Day in Skepticism <small>()</small> ==
== This Day in Skepticism <small>(1:07)</small> ==
* October 27, 1780: The first U.S. astronomical expedition to record an eclipse of the sun observed the event which lasted from 11:11 am to 1:50 pm.
* October 27, 1780: The first U.S. astronomical expedition to record an eclipse of the sun observed the event which lasted from 11:11 am to 1:50 pm.
* October 27, 1891: Philip B. Downing, inventor, was awarded a U.S. patent for an improvement to the street letter (mail) box.
* October 27, 1891: Philip B. Downing, inventor, was awarded a U.S. patent for an improvement to the street letter (mail) box.


== News Items ==
== News Items ==
=== Genetic Logic Circuit <small>()</small>===
=== Genetic Logic Circuit <small>(3:34)</small>===
* https://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/24418.aspx
* https://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/24418.aspx


=== Efficient Language <small>()</small>===
=== Efficient Language <small>(13:26)</small>===
* http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/10/12/1215776109.abstract
* http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/10/12/1215776109.abstract


=== Closest Exoplanet <small>()</small>===
=== Closest Exoplanet <small>(22:01)</small>===
* http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/scientists-find-earthsized-planet-alpha-centauri-bb-in-neighbouring-star-system-8214331.html
* http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/scientists-find-earthsized-planet-alpha-centauri-bb-in-neighbouring-star-system-8214331.html


=== Alien Hacker <small>()</small>===
=== Alien Hacker <small>(30:34)</small>===
* http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/10/16/gary_mckinnon_talha_ahsan_theresa_may_announces_u_k_will_not_extradite_alien.html
* http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2012/10/16/gary_mckinnon_talha_ahsan_theresa_may_announces_u_k_will_not_extradite_alien.html


== Who's That Noisy? <small>()</small>==
== Who's That Noisy? <small>(43:17)</small>==
* Answer to last week - revealed in three weeks
* Answer to last week - revealed in three weeks


== Questions and Emails ==
== Questions and Emails ==
=== Zombie Bite <small>()</small>===
=== Zombie Bite <small>(44:36)</small>===
<blockquote>Hey Guys, I got a fun Medical Question for you all and maybe a little bit more aimed towards Dr. Novella due to his medical background. If you've seen the new season of the Walking Dead (spoilers), in the first episode the old guy gets bitten on the leg and the main character decides to amputate his leg because he thinks it's like a venomous snake bite. The rationale is even though they all know they're all infected already, that zombie bites cause a secondary infection that makes you sick and you die thereby allowing the primary infection to turn you into a zombie. Is the choice to amputate really stupid even if the infection was like a venomous bite? You would think they made a relatively moderate problem of a huge bite into an enormous problem given that there's going to be massive blood loss now, chance of incidental infection, and well....the old guy is really old and he probably can't take the shock of getting his leg hacked on repeatedly by a handaxe. If they intended to cauterize the amputation later, wouldn't it have been better to just cauterize the huge bite wound instead and hope that would be enough? It seems like anything they could do to help the amputation they've could have done to the bite wound and it wouldn't have been as bad. Dr. Novella has talked about in medicine that usually treatments have risks but the benefits outweigh the risks. In this case I'm wondering if the Amputation is causing more damage than it's helping, given their fictional situation. Thanks, Henry Loo</blockquote>
<blockquote>Hey Guys, I got a fun Medical Question for you all and maybe a little bit more aimed towards Dr. Novella due to his medical background. If you've seen the new season of the Walking Dead (spoilers), in the first episode the old guy gets bitten on the leg and the main character decides to amputate his leg because he thinks it's like a venomous snake bite. The rationale is even though they all know they're all infected already, that zombie bites cause a secondary infection that makes you sick and you die thereby allowing the primary infection to turn you into a zombie. Is the choice to amputate really stupid even if the infection was like a venomous bite? You would think they made a relatively moderate problem of a huge bite into an enormous problem given that there's going to be massive blood loss now, chance of incidental infection, and well....the old guy is really old and he probably can't take the shock of getting his leg hacked on repeatedly by a handaxe. If they intended to cauterize the amputation later, wouldn't it have been better to just cauterize the huge bite wound instead and hope that would be enough? It seems like anything they could do to help the amputation they've could have done to the bite wound and it wouldn't have been as bad. Dr. Novella has talked about in medicine that usually treatments have risks but the benefits outweigh the risks. In this case I'm wondering if the Amputation is causing more damage than it's helping, given their fictional situation. Thanks, Henry Loo</blockquote>


== Science or Fiction <small>()</small> ==
== Announcements ==
=== Evan on Television: The Trisha Show <small>(53:58)</small>===
=== SGU Nominated For The 2012 Stitcher Award <small>(54:46)</small>===
* [http://stitcher.promotw.com The Stitcher Awards]
 
== Science or Fiction <small>(55:17)</small> ==
S: [http://www.southernencounter.co.nz/seanews_whatsnew.htm Item number one].  The hagfish can rapidly produce as much as 20 liters of slime as a defense against predators.  [http://www.sciencemag.org/content/254/5032/701 Item number two]. The oldest fossil hagfish is 300 million years old and shows remarkable similarity to modern hagfish, demonstrating unusual evolutionary stability.  [http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090909/full/461164a.html Item number three].  Molecular analysis has confirmed that hagfish are transitional between vertebrates and invertebrates.  And [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagfish item number four].  Hagfish are the only creatures known to have a skull but no vertebral column.  
S: [http://www.southernencounter.co.nz/seanews_whatsnew.htm Item number one].  The hagfish can rapidly produce as much as 20 liters of slime as a defense against predators.  [http://www.sciencemag.org/content/254/5032/701 Item number two]. The oldest fossil hagfish is 300 million years old and shows remarkable similarity to modern hagfish, demonstrating unusual evolutionary stability.  [http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090909/full/461164a.html Item number three].  Molecular analysis has confirmed that hagfish are transitional between vertebrates and invertebrates.  And [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hagfish item number four].  Hagfish are the only creatures known to have a skull but no vertebral column.  


== Skeptical Quote of the Week <small>()</small> ==
== Skeptical Quote of the Week <small>(1:09:45)</small> ==
<blockquote>The Web is great for finding a list of the ten biggest cities in the United States, but if the scientific literature is merely littered with wrong facts, then cyberspace is an enticing quagmire of falsehoods, propaganda, and just plain bunkum. There simply is no substitute for skepticism.</blockquote>
<blockquote>The Web is great for finding a list of the ten biggest cities in the United States, but if the scientific literature is merely littered with wrong facts, then cyberspace is an enticing quagmire of falsehoods, propaganda, and just plain bunkum. There simply is no substitute for skepticism.</blockquote>
J: Samuel Arbesman!
J: Samuel Arbesman!
== Announcements <small>()</small> ==


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SGU Episode 380
27th October 2012
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SGU 379                      SGU 381

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

J: Jay Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

Quote of the Week

The Web is great for finding a list of the ten biggest cities in the United States, but if the scientific literature is merely littered with wrong facts, then cyberspace is an enticing quagmire of falsehoods, propaganda, and just plain bunkum. There simply is no substitute for skepticism.

Samuel Arbesman

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Introduction

You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.

This Day in Skepticism (1:07)

  • October 27, 1780: The first U.S. astronomical expedition to record an eclipse of the sun observed the event which lasted from 11:11 am to 1:50 pm.
  • October 27, 1891: Philip B. Downing, inventor, was awarded a U.S. patent for an improvement to the street letter (mail) box.

News Items

Genetic Logic Circuit (3:34)

Efficient Language (13:26)

Closest Exoplanet (22:01)

Alien Hacker (30:34)

Who's That Noisy? (43:17)

  • Answer to last week - revealed in three weeks

Questions and Emails

Zombie Bite (44:36)

Hey Guys, I got a fun Medical Question for you all and maybe a little bit more aimed towards Dr. Novella due to his medical background. If you've seen the new season of the Walking Dead (spoilers), in the first episode the old guy gets bitten on the leg and the main character decides to amputate his leg because he thinks it's like a venomous snake bite. The rationale is even though they all know they're all infected already, that zombie bites cause a secondary infection that makes you sick and you die thereby allowing the primary infection to turn you into a zombie. Is the choice to amputate really stupid even if the infection was like a venomous bite? You would think they made a relatively moderate problem of a huge bite into an enormous problem given that there's going to be massive blood loss now, chance of incidental infection, and well....the old guy is really old and he probably can't take the shock of getting his leg hacked on repeatedly by a handaxe. If they intended to cauterize the amputation later, wouldn't it have been better to just cauterize the huge bite wound instead and hope that would be enough? It seems like anything they could do to help the amputation they've could have done to the bite wound and it wouldn't have been as bad. Dr. Novella has talked about in medicine that usually treatments have risks but the benefits outweigh the risks. In this case I'm wondering if the Amputation is causing more damage than it's helping, given their fictional situation. Thanks, Henry Loo

Announcements

Evan on Television: The Trisha Show (53:58)

SGU Nominated For The 2012 Stitcher Award (54:46)

Science or Fiction (55:17)

S: Item number one. The hagfish can rapidly produce as much as 20 liters of slime as a defense against predators. Item number two. The oldest fossil hagfish is 300 million years old and shows remarkable similarity to modern hagfish, demonstrating unusual evolutionary stability. Item number three. Molecular analysis has confirmed that hagfish are transitional between vertebrates and invertebrates. And item number four. Hagfish are the only creatures known to have a skull but no vertebral column.

Skeptical Quote of the Week (1:09:45)

The Web is great for finding a list of the ten biggest cities in the United States, but if the scientific literature is merely littered with wrong facts, then cyberspace is an enticing quagmire of falsehoods, propaganda, and just plain bunkum. There simply is no substitute for skepticism.

J: Samuel Arbesman!

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