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'''S:''' Evan, give us the last quote of the year. Last quote of 2020.
'''E:'''  The last quote of 2022 by another scientist who unfortunately we lost in 2022.
'''E:''' Here's what she said.
'''E:''' I always knew I wanted to be a doctor.
'''E:''' Unfortunately, my parents believed that girls should do as well as boys.
'''E:''' So off I set.
'''E:''' Audrey Evans, born March 6, 1925, died September 29, 2022.
'''E:''' Pediatric oncologist who is known as the mother of neuroblastoma.
'''E:'''  Whoa, nice.
'''E:'''  And one of the co-founders of Ronald McDonald House.
'''E:''' Now, she was known as the mother of neuroblastoma because of all the advances, research, and work that she did for this type of cancer.
'''E:''' After years of treating this type of cancer, she reduced the mortality rate caused by neuroblastoma by about 50% and currently the survival rate is above 85% thanks to her.
'''E:''' In fact, there is something called the Evans Staging System for Neuroblastoma.
'''E:''' It is named for her.
'''E:'''  Awesome.
'''E:''' Sure it's not named after you?
'''E:'''  Oh, yeah.
'''E:''' Well, of course.
'''E:''' Yes, asterisk.
'''E:''' I'm fond of that name.
'''J:'''  Hey, Steve.
'''J:'''  Yeah.
'''J:'''  I think every year I say something about the hard work that you put in and how-  He says work harder.
'''J:'''  Without your leadership and persistent banging on the table to get us to do everything that we have to do to get this show done, it wouldn't get done.
'''J:''' I mean, by Steve's force of will, you know, like the spice.
'''J:''' He's like a mentat.
'''J:''' You make, you know, force of mind, whatever.
'''J:''' Remember that?
'''IC:'''  Sure.
'''IC:''' Name that reference.
'''IC:''' Come on.
'''J:'''  But I wanna thank you, Steve.
'''J:'''  Do it.
'''J:'''  I wanna thank you for taking me on this amazing journey which is the SGU.
'''J:''' It's like, you know, from the very beginning, I never thought in a million years that we would be what we are and be able to do the things that we do and I owe it all to you.
'''S:'''  Thank you, brother.
'''S:''' It is a fun journey to take with all of you guys, with my family and friends, my close friends.
'''S:''' You guys are all family.
'''S:'''  We're family.
'''E:''' I mean, let's face it.
'''E:''' We are family.
'''S:'''  Yeah.
'''S:''' It is a family.
'''S:''' Yeah, I mean, this would be so–  Spooky and spooky.
'''S:'''  I could do this by myself, but why?
'''S:''' It wouldn't–it would be really boring.
'''S:''' You know what I mean?
'''S:''' The collaboration is fun, getting together is fun.
'''S:''' As I said, like this is like the funnest two, three hours of my week chatting with all you guys even though it's virtual.
'''S:''' It's still great to get together with everybody.
'''S:''' And what's more fun to talk about than science and critical thinking?
'''S:'''  Oh, my gosh.
'''E:'''  Seriously.
'''E:'''  Absolutely.
'''B:'''  Our voices will be on the internet until the post-apocalypse.
'''B:'''  I have to tell an anecdote now about this.
'''S:''' So we were driving to the airport.
'''S:''' All the guys were in the car.
'''S:''' Well, no George, no Cara, but the guys from Connecticut were all in the car.
'''S:''' And we had a driver to take us to the last leg.
'''S:''' We wouldn't have to park at the airport.
'''S:''' And so we're just having a typical conversation, right?
'''S:''' We were chatting about what we were gonna be covering on the upcoming, you know, live shows that we were gonna do.
'''S:''' We were talking about Fusion.
'''S:''' We were talking about the chat GPT and a bunch of other stuff about Artemis, you know, all the good stuff.
'''S:''' And about 40-50 minutes into the ride, we're getting close to the airport.
'''S:''' The driver, do you know him personally, Ian?
'''S:''' I know you helped him with the ride.
'''IC:'''  No.
'''IC:''' He's like a mutual.
'''S:'''  He was just a random guy.
'''S:'''  Yeah.
'''S:'''  Yeah.
'''S:''' So he's just like, who are you guys?
'''S:''' He's like, I have to say–
'''B:'''  I thought he said, what are you guys?
'''S:'''  Oh, yeah. What are you guys?
'''S:''' This is the most interesting–  No, he said who?
'''S:'''  I think this is the most interesting conversation I've ever heard.
'''S:''' And he was just like fascinated by the whole thing.
'''S:''' Like, who the hell talks like that?
'''S:''' So we told him, yeah, well, we do this for a living, basically.
'''S:''' Like, we've been doing it for 17 years, having conversations like this and making it interesting.
'''S:''' And it was fun because we were just chatting.
'''S:''' Like, we weren't doing a show, but it was the same conversation.
'''S:''' You know what I mean?
'''S:''' Which I think has always been the strength of our show–
'''B:'''  Yeah, for sure.
'''S:'''  –is that it is like we're just having a chat among friends who are interested in science and critical thinking and that sort of thing.
'''S:'''  And just cool sci-fi stuff.
'''IC:'''  Yeah.
'''IC:''' Shout out to Tim.
'''IC:''' You'll hear this after you've been through several hundred episodes.
'''E:''' You'll eventually hear it.
'''E:'''  He was a nice guy.
'''IC:'''  And speaking of it, shout out to our patrons and listeners who keep this thing afloat.
'''E:''' You know?
'''E:'''  Yes.
'''E:''' Hear, hear.
'''J:'''  Yeah, our patrons have an awesome thing going on in Discord, by the way.
'''J:''' I mean, I keep talking to Sharon, who is one of the mods on Discord.
'''J:''' What a community.
'''J:''' The SGU has a vibrant, happy, and very discussion-heavy community going on.
'''J:''' And we really appreciate every single patron that we have out there on or off Discord.
'''J:''' I mean, we really couldn't do it without you guys.
'''J:''' It means the world to us that you believe in what we're doing enough to become a part of it in a sense.
'''J:''' I hope you have a wonderful holiday.
'''J:''' Happy New Year.
'''J:''' And to the rest of you guys, it is my honor to work with all of you.
'''J:'''  Likewise.
'''S:'''  It really is.
'''S:''' Yeah.
'''S:'''  Likewise.
'''S:'''  And I agree.
'''S:''' Yeah.
'''S:''' Again, this would be a pretty empty exercise if we weren't part of a bigger community, if there weren't people out there who were giving us feedback, sending us emails, being part of the discussion.
'''S:''' I think there's a lot of negative things you could say about social media and the impact it's had on the world.
'''S:''' But I think the one big positive thing is that it turns communication into a dialogue.
'''S:''' You know what I mean?
'''S:''' We're not just lecturing.
'''S:''' We're not talking at people.
'''S:''' We're having a dialogue and it's part of a broader discussion and dialogue, whether it's in the comments or on over email or on the Discord or on Facebook.
'''S:'''  That's the best way to learn.
'''S:'''  Yeah.
'''S:''' And we consume a lot of that.
'''S:''' We are taking all that feedback.
'''S:''' It's constantly being directed back into the show.
'''S:''' And that's, again, the other thing that has made this an awesome ride is just the community of critical thinkers and skeptics out there that we're interfacing with.
'''S:''' Really, really happy with the community that we've helped to build.
'''S:'''  Hear, hear.
'''S:'''  Roger that.
'''S:''' All right, guys.
'''S:''' Well, congratulations on another year.
'''S:''' We've basically completed 17 years of the SGE.
'''S:''' We're going into year 18.
'''S:'''  Oh, my God.
'''S:''' Yes.
'''S:''' Oh, man.
'''S:'''  Yeah.
'''S:'''  Bring it.
'''S:''' Yeah, let's do it.
'''S:'''  It is amazing.
'''S:''' We're two years away from our 1,000th episode.
'''S:'''  Oh, my gosh.
'''S:''' 1,000?
'''E:'''  Yeah.
'''E:''' Each part out, Joe Rogan.
'''B:'''  Something special, like broadcast naked something.
'''B:'''  I have one thing from the listeners for the
'''IC:''' year in review. They love Bob's innuendo, gird your loins.
'''IC:''' So maybe that'll do the merch.
'''IC:'''  No, they don't.
'''IC:''' They're lying.
'''IC:'''  Drop a little Gird Your Loins in Bob's face.
'''B:'''  I have my finger on the pulse of awesomeness.
'''B:'''  That would be a good T-shirt.
'''S:''' It would be around Gird Your Loins.
'''B:'''  Gird Your Loins with the SGE.
'''J:'''  No.
'''E:'''  Cara gets a B-tool over that, I think.
'''S:'''  It just means to tie up your tunic.
'''S:''' That's all it means, Cara.
'''C:'''  Yeah, it's totally how Bob's using it.
'''E:'''  I know.
'''B:'''  Adjust your loin cloth.
'''B:'''  It has so many meanings.
'''B:''' That's why I love it.
'''B:'''  All right.


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S: Evan, give us the last quote of the year. Last quote of 2020.

E: The last quote of 2022 by another scientist who unfortunately we lost in 2022.

E: Here's what she said.

E: I always knew I wanted to be a doctor.

E: Unfortunately, my parents believed that girls should do as well as boys.

E: So off I set.

E: Audrey Evans, born March 6, 1925, died September 29, 2022.

E: Pediatric oncologist who is known as the mother of neuroblastoma.

E: Whoa, nice.

E: And one of the co-founders of Ronald McDonald House.

E: Now, she was known as the mother of neuroblastoma because of all the advances, research, and work that she did for this type of cancer.

E: After years of treating this type of cancer, she reduced the mortality rate caused by neuroblastoma by about 50% and currently the survival rate is above 85% thanks to her.

E: In fact, there is something called the Evans Staging System for Neuroblastoma.

E: It is named for her.

E: Awesome.

E: Sure it's not named after you?

E: Oh, yeah.

E: Well, of course.

E: Yes, asterisk.

E: I'm fond of that name.

J: Hey, Steve.

J: Yeah.

J: I think every year I say something about the hard work that you put in and how- He says work harder.

J: Without your leadership and persistent banging on the table to get us to do everything that we have to do to get this show done, it wouldn't get done.

J: I mean, by Steve's force of will, you know, like the spice.

J: He's like a mentat.

J: You make, you know, force of mind, whatever.

J: Remember that?

IC: Sure.

IC: Name that reference.

IC: Come on.

J: But I wanna thank you, Steve.

J: Do it.

J: I wanna thank you for taking me on this amazing journey which is the SGU.

J: It's like, you know, from the very beginning, I never thought in a million years that we would be what we are and be able to do the things that we do and I owe it all to you.

S: Thank you, brother.

S: It is a fun journey to take with all of you guys, with my family and friends, my close friends.

S: You guys are all family.

S: We're family.

E: I mean, let's face it.

E: We are family.

S: Yeah.

S: It is a family.

S: Yeah, I mean, this would be so– Spooky and spooky.

S: I could do this by myself, but why?

S: It wouldn't–it would be really boring.

S: You know what I mean?

S: The collaboration is fun, getting together is fun.

S: As I said, like this is like the funnest two, three hours of my week chatting with all you guys even though it's virtual.

S: It's still great to get together with everybody.

S: And what's more fun to talk about than science and critical thinking?

S: Oh, my gosh.

E: Seriously.

E: Absolutely.

B: Our voices will be on the internet until the post-apocalypse.

B: I have to tell an anecdote now about this.

S: So we were driving to the airport.

S: All the guys were in the car.

S: Well, no George, no Cara, but the guys from Connecticut were all in the car.

S: And we had a driver to take us to the last leg.

S: We wouldn't have to park at the airport.

S: And so we're just having a typical conversation, right?

S: We were chatting about what we were gonna be covering on the upcoming, you know, live shows that we were gonna do.

S: We were talking about Fusion.

S: We were talking about the chat GPT and a bunch of other stuff about Artemis, you know, all the good stuff.

S: And about 40-50 minutes into the ride, we're getting close to the airport.

S: The driver, do you know him personally, Ian?

S: I know you helped him with the ride.

IC: No.

IC: He's like a mutual.

S: He was just a random guy.

S: Yeah.

S: Yeah.

S: So he's just like, who are you guys?

S: He's like, I have to say–

B: I thought he said, what are you guys?

S: Oh, yeah. What are you guys?

S: This is the most interesting– No, he said who?

S: I think this is the most interesting conversation I've ever heard.

S: And he was just like fascinated by the whole thing.

S: Like, who the hell talks like that?

S: So we told him, yeah, well, we do this for a living, basically.

S: Like, we've been doing it for 17 years, having conversations like this and making it interesting.

S: And it was fun because we were just chatting.

S: Like, we weren't doing a show, but it was the same conversation.

S: You know what I mean?

S: Which I think has always been the strength of our show–

B: Yeah, for sure.

S: –is that it is like we're just having a chat among friends who are interested in science and critical thinking and that sort of thing.

S: And just cool sci-fi stuff.

IC: Yeah.

IC: Shout out to Tim.

IC: You'll hear this after you've been through several hundred episodes.

E: You'll eventually hear it.

E: He was a nice guy.

IC: And speaking of it, shout out to our patrons and listeners who keep this thing afloat.

E: You know?

E: Yes.

E: Hear, hear.

J: Yeah, our patrons have an awesome thing going on in Discord, by the way.

J: I mean, I keep talking to Sharon, who is one of the mods on Discord.

J: What a community.

J: The SGU has a vibrant, happy, and very discussion-heavy community going on.

J: And we really appreciate every single patron that we have out there on or off Discord.

J: I mean, we really couldn't do it without you guys.

J: It means the world to us that you believe in what we're doing enough to become a part of it in a sense.

J: I hope you have a wonderful holiday.

J: Happy New Year.

J: And to the rest of you guys, it is my honor to work with all of you.

J: Likewise.

S: It really is.

S: Yeah.

S: Likewise.

S: And I agree.

S: Yeah.

S: Again, this would be a pretty empty exercise if we weren't part of a bigger community, if there weren't people out there who were giving us feedback, sending us emails, being part of the discussion.

S: I think there's a lot of negative things you could say about social media and the impact it's had on the world.

S: But I think the one big positive thing is that it turns communication into a dialogue.

S: You know what I mean?

S: We're not just lecturing.

S: We're not talking at people.

S: We're having a dialogue and it's part of a broader discussion and dialogue, whether it's in the comments or on over email or on the Discord or on Facebook.

S: That's the best way to learn.

S: Yeah.

S: And we consume a lot of that.

S: We are taking all that feedback.

S: It's constantly being directed back into the show.

S: And that's, again, the other thing that has made this an awesome ride is just the community of critical thinkers and skeptics out there that we're interfacing with.

S: Really, really happy with the community that we've helped to build.

S: Hear, hear.

S: Roger that.

S: All right, guys.

S: Well, congratulations on another year.

S: We've basically completed 17 years of the SGE.

S: We're going into year 18.

S: Oh, my God.

S: Yes.

S: Oh, man.

S: Yeah.

S: Bring it.

S: Yeah, let's do it.

S: It is amazing.

S: We're two years away from our 1,000th episode.

S: Oh, my gosh.

S: 1,000?

E: Yeah.

E: Each part out, Joe Rogan.

B: Something special, like broadcast naked something.

B: I have one thing from the listeners for the

IC: year in review. They love Bob's innuendo, gird your loins.

IC: So maybe that'll do the merch.

IC: No, they don't.

IC: They're lying.

IC: Drop a little Gird Your Loins in Bob's face.

B: I have my finger on the pulse of awesomeness.

B: That would be a good T-shirt.

S: It would be around Gird Your Loins.

B: Gird Your Loins with the SGE.

J: No.

E: Cara gets a B-tool over that, I think.

S: It just means to tie up your tunic.

S: That's all it means, Cara.

C: Yeah, it's totally how Bob's using it.

E: I know.

B: Adjust your loin cloth.

B: It has so many meanings.

B: That's why I love it.

B: All right.

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S: —and until next week, this is your Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

S: Well, thank you all for joining me this week and this year.

E: Yes, great year.

E: It's our pleasure.

E: Thank you.

S: And thank you for joining us, Ian.

S: And Ian, we have to recognize all of the hard work that you do.

S: I know it's mostly behind the scenes.

IC: I know you're going to cut this out.

IC: I know.

IC: It's fine.

S: I'm not going to cut it out.

S: I know you want to be the man behind the curtain, and you never want the spotlight to be focused on you.

S: I get it.

S: But here it is.

S: It's your deep professionalism, and I respect that.

S: But every now and then, we have to acknowledge all of the, not just the hard work that you do, but the real expertise that you bring to the technology.

S: And the all-around awesome tea-drinking guy

B: you are. Yeah.

E: Yeah, you're just fun to be with, too.

E: I love working with you, Ian.

J: I also love eating with you.

J: You're so much fun to have a meal with, man.

J: Thanks, guys.

S: And again, it's not just that, but you've become a really close friend.

S: Again, the people we end up working with, it's not just that they're working for us.

S: It's that they really become part of the family.

S: Yeah, they got the whole package.

S: Family.

S: Yeah, they're absolutely part of the family.

S: Because we have to, you know, we're goombas.

S: You know, we've got to work with family.

S: That's true.

S: That's what I'm about.

J: And while we're talking about Ian, we can't forget Kelly, who has been an intern, tempered for you for us.

E: Thank you, Kelly.

J: Kelly has taken on a lot of the stamina-based work that I do.

J: You know, she does a lot of social media.

J: She's been going through some emails.

J: And I just really appreciate her, and she is awesome.

J: She's helped us in a lot of ways.

J: Thank you for the baked goods, too.

E: They're delicious.

S: Thank you.

S: Since we're spreading the love, we also have to acknowledge one of our primary partners in crime, George Robb.

S: Oh, yes.

E: Yes.

S: Here, here.

S: George is also a great friend, again, somebody that we consider to be family that we met through skepticism.

S: He is the leader of our live events.

S: When we go on an event weekend where we do the extravaganza, you know, George completely runs that.

S: That is all him.

S: And he is, whenever we need anything like real creative, he's our go-to guy.

S: He's just such a funny, creative guy with a great skill set.

S: So he's been a fantastic addition to SGU activity.

J: I love working with George.

J: Yeah.

J: I love – Just love hanging out with him, too.

B: Oh, yeah.

J: Talking to George is so much fun.

J: I mean, I like the group dynamic that we have, and George adds a lot to it.

J: And I particularly love when we're doing the extravaganza and George is out front.

J: You know, we're sitting in the chairs behind him and I just always have this moment where I'm like, oh, my God, this guy is so funny.

J: I love working with him so much.

J: He makes me laugh, I think, more than anybody I know.

B: He's a funny bastard.

B: Holy crap.

B: He comes out with stuff.

B: We're like, holy crap, that was funny.

B: All right.

S: Well, thanks again, everyone.

S: All right, Steve.

S: This is it for real.

S: This is really it.

S: And until next week and next year, this is the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

S: Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by SGU Productions, dedicated to promoting science and critical thinking. For more information, visit us at theskepticsguide.org. Send your questions to info@theskepticsguide.org. And, if you would like to support the show and all the work that we do, go to patreon.com/SkepticsGuide and consider becoming a patron and becoming part of the SGU community. Our listeners and supporters are what make SGU possible.

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