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== Announcements <small>(8:40)</small> ==
== Announcements <small>(8:40)</small> ==
* 6-hour live stream
* 6-hour live stream
[08:40.280 --> 08:45.280]  Hey, this is a good time to let our audience know that we have an
[08:45.280 --> 08:47.280]  upcoming live stream.
[08:47.280 --> 08:55.280]  This is going to be a six-hour SGU live show on September 24th,
[08:55.280 --> 09:01.280]  so just three weeks after this show comes out, 12 p.m. to 6 p.m. Eastern time.
[09:01.280 --> 09:02.280]  12 noon.
[09:02.280 --> 09:03.280]  12 noon.
[09:03.280 --> 09:04.280]  It's still p.m., right?
[09:04.280 --> 09:05.280]  Yes, it is.
[09:05.280 --> 09:06.280]  It is p.m.
[09:06.280 --> 09:07.280]  No, it's not.
[09:07.280 --> 09:08.280]  Yes, it is.
[09:08.280 --> 09:09.280]  12 noon is...
[09:09.280 --> 09:10.280]  12 noon is...
[09:10.280 --> 09:11.280]  There is no 12 p.m.
[09:11.280 --> 09:13.280]  It makes no logical sense.
[09:13.280 --> 09:14.280]  Move on.
[09:14.280 --> 09:15.280]  Oh, no, we're doing this again.
[09:15.280 --> 09:16.280]  All right, move on.
[09:16.280 --> 09:21.280]  Hey, Bob, what time zone is it at the North Pole?
[09:21.280 --> 09:23.280]  Jay, don't listen to her.
[09:23.280 --> 09:27.280]  If it's 12 p.m. in the North Pole, go ahead.
[09:27.280 --> 09:30.280]  12 noon to 6 p.m. Eastern time.
[09:30.280 --> 09:31.280]  Thank you.
[09:31.280 --> 09:33.280]  We will be doing a six-hour SGU live stream.
[09:33.280 --> 09:35.280]  It's going to be a lot of fun.
[09:35.280 --> 09:41.280]  Put that on your calendar, and we'll be letting everybody know how to sign into that.
[09:41.280 --> 09:43.280]  It's free and open to the public.
[09:43.280 --> 09:48.280]  Well, we're going to be doing a couple of SGU episodes, and we're going to be
[09:48.280 --> 09:51.280]  doing a deep dive on the book, the new book coming out.
[09:51.280 --> 09:52.280]  Yeah.
[09:52.280 --> 09:58.280]  Among other things, and guests, and possibly food being prepared live in Steve's kitchen.
[09:58.280 --> 09:59.280]  Possibly.
[09:59.280 --> 10:00.280]  I hope so.
[10:00.280 --> 10:01.280]  At some point, that will probably happen.
[10:01.280 --> 10:02.280]  I'm going to be hungry.
[10:02.280 --> 10:03.280]  Yeah.
[10:03.280 --> 10:04.280]  Those are always a lot of fun.
[10:04.280 --> 10:05.280]  And six hours now is like nothing.
[10:05.280 --> 10:06.280]  You know, we could do six hours.
[10:06.280 --> 10:07.280]  We're just getting started.
[10:07.280 --> 10:08.280]  Six hours.
[10:08.280 --> 10:09.280]  Yep.
[10:09.280 --> 10:10.280]  Just getting warmed up.
[10:10.280 --> 10:14.280]  Just getting warmed up.
[10:14.280 --> 10:19.280]  And just one other sort of chatty thing before we get to the news items is we were very anxiously
[10:19.280 --> 10:24.280]  following the countdown to the Artemis 1 launch on Monday.
[10:24.280 --> 10:25.280]  Oh, boy.
[10:25.280 --> 10:26.280]  But it got scrubbed.
[10:26.280 --> 10:27.280]  That scrubbed.
[10:27.280 --> 10:31.280]  They had a pressure issue in one of the tanks.
[10:31.280 --> 10:32.280]  Was it pressure or temperature?
[10:32.280 --> 10:33.280]  One of those things.
[10:33.280 --> 10:37.280]  And they couldn't fix it in the two-hour launch window that they had.
[10:37.280 --> 10:41.280]  So as soon as they realized we're not going to fix this in time, they had to scrub it.
[10:41.280 --> 10:43.280]  I read that it could have been a faulty sensor.
[10:43.280 --> 10:45.280]  There might not have been an actual problem.
[10:45.280 --> 10:46.280]  Right.
[10:46.280 --> 10:47.280]  But whatever.
[10:47.280 --> 10:48.280]  It doesn't matter.
[10:48.280 --> 10:49.280]  Absolutely.
[10:49.280 --> 10:51.280]  You can't risk this at this point.
[10:51.280 --> 10:53.280]  Do they have another launch date now?
[10:53.280 --> 10:54.280]  Friday, I believe.
[10:54.280 --> 10:55.280]  Tomorrow.
[10:55.280 --> 10:57.280]  Well, it's tomorrow or yesterday.
[10:57.280 --> 10:58.280]  Yesterday.
[10:58.280 --> 10:59.280]  Yeah.
[10:59.280 --> 11:00.280]  Time travel.
[11:00.280 --> 11:01.280]  It's in two days or yesterday to begin.
[11:01.280 --> 11:02.280]  How will it go yesterday?
[11:02.280 --> 11:03.280]  We will find out.
[11:03.280 --> 11:04.280]  Tomorrow.
[11:04.280 --> 11:05.280]  Stay tuned.
[11:05.280 --> 11:09.280]  As you're listening to this, you probably know more than we do as you're recording it.
[11:09.280 --> 11:11.280]  We know more than we do right now.
[11:11.280 --> 11:14.280]  We'll give an update next week one way or the other.
[11:14.280 --> 11:16.280]  I know podcast time.
[11:16.280 --> 11:18.280]  It's all timey-wimey.
[11:18.280 --> 11:19.280]  Talk about time travel.
[11:19.280 --> 11:20.280]  Timey-wimey.
[11:20.280 --> 11:22.280]  Boy, try doing a podcast for 18 years.
[11:22.280 --> 11:24.280]  All right, let's go on with some news items.


== News Items ==
== News Items ==

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SGU Episode 895
September 3rd 2022
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SGU 894                      SGU 896

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

C: Cara Santa Maria

J: Jay Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

Guest

SY: Dr. Seema Yasmin, British writer & science communicator

Quote of the Week

If you have an effect that nobody can replicate, then your phenomenon fades away. So if you want to have a legacy, then you jolly well better have an effect that replicates.

Susan Fiske, American social psychologist

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Introduction, Steve's COVID, Cara in FL

Voice-over: You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.

[00:09.000 --> 00:14.440] Hello and welcome to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe. Today is Wednesday, August

[00:14.440 --> 00:19.280] 31st, 2022, and this is your host, Stephen Novella. Joining me this week are Bob Novella.

[00:19.280 --> 00:20.280] Hey, everybody.

[00:20.280 --> 00:21.280] Kara Santamaria.

[00:21.280 --> 00:22.280] Howdy.

[00:22.280 --> 00:23.280] Jay Novella.

[00:23.280 --> 00:24.280] Hey, guys.

[00:24.280 --> 00:25.280] And Evan Bernstein.

[00:25.280 --> 00:26.280] Good evening, friends.

[00:26.280 --> 00:29.280] Well, guys, it finally happened.

[00:29.280 --> 00:30.280] Oh, boy.

[00:30.280 --> 00:31.280] What happened?

[00:31.280 --> 00:32.280] It's no longer elite.

[00:32.280 --> 00:33.280] What happened?

[00:33.280 --> 00:34.280] You went on your first date.

[00:34.280 --> 00:35.280] I got COVID.

[00:35.280 --> 00:36.280] Oh.

[00:36.280 --> 00:37.280] Am I the last one standing?

[00:37.280 --> 00:38.280] Why did you do that?

[00:38.280 --> 00:39.280] No.

[00:39.280 --> 00:40.280] Why?

[00:40.280 --> 00:41.280] The Italy trip got me.

[00:41.280 --> 00:42.280] Too many crowds.

[00:42.280 --> 00:43.280] Italy.

[00:43.280 --> 00:48.280] Despite masking everywhere, I was masked the whole time.

[00:48.280 --> 00:51.280] There's only so much you can social distance.

[00:51.280 --> 00:52.280] We did the best we could.

[00:52.280 --> 00:56.280] It was probably the plane ride home, but based on the timing.

[00:56.280 --> 01:00.280] I'm at the tail end now because I was getting it just last week.

[01:00.280 --> 01:03.280] Were you feeling it in Italy or when you got home?

[01:03.280 --> 01:04.280] No.

[01:04.280 --> 01:05.280] No.

[01:05.280 --> 01:08.280] I wasn't feeling it until like a day after I got home.

[01:08.280 --> 01:10.280] Well, at least it didn't ruin your holiday.

[01:10.280 --> 01:11.280] Yeah, that's true.

[01:11.280 --> 01:12.280] That's a good thing.

[01:12.280 --> 01:15.280] It started with just a scratchy throat.

[01:15.280 --> 01:17.280] Even to the point, I'm like, is that something real?

[01:17.280 --> 01:19.280] Is the air just drying here?

[01:19.280 --> 01:20.280] Is something going on?

[01:20.280 --> 01:22.280] And then it hit me like a Mack truck.

[01:22.280 --> 01:26.280] Within two hours, clearly I had viremia.

[01:26.280 --> 01:29.280] So the virus is just replicating like mad in my bloodstream.

[01:29.280 --> 01:33.280] So I had the fever, chills, muscle aches, fatigue.

[01:33.280 --> 01:34.280] Were they multiplying?

[01:34.280 --> 01:36.280] They were multiplying, yeah.

[01:36.280 --> 01:39.280] Nice day.

[01:39.280 --> 01:42.280] And then it just turned into a really bad cold.

[01:42.280 --> 01:44.280] I'm still at the tail end.

[01:44.280 --> 01:45.280] Did you die?

[01:45.280 --> 01:46.280] Throughout the show.

[01:46.280 --> 01:47.280] No, I managed not to die, which is good.

[01:47.280 --> 01:48.280] That's good.

[01:48.280 --> 01:50.280] Well, look, let's say for what it is.

[01:50.280 --> 01:54.280] The vaccine, I know that most people that listen to this show

[01:54.280 --> 01:55.280] already know this.

[01:55.280 --> 01:58.280] But we need to take a moment to recognize

[01:58.280 --> 02:00.280] the miracle of freaking technology,

[02:00.280 --> 02:05.280] which is these vaccines that have saved millions of lives.

[02:05.280 --> 02:08.280] Steve, as much as Omicron isn't as deadly

[02:08.280 --> 02:13.280] as the first couple of versions, you could have died.

[02:13.280 --> 02:16.280] The vaccine turned it into a bad cold, basically.

[02:16.280 --> 02:17.280] Right.

[02:17.280 --> 02:18.280] But that's what I'm getting at.

[02:18.280 --> 02:20.280] You got a sickness that potentially

[02:20.280 --> 02:22.280] could have killed you if it weren't for the vaccine

[02:22.280 --> 02:24.280] that you've been taking over the last two years.

[02:24.280 --> 02:27.280] Yeah, if I didn't know, if this was not COVID,

[02:27.280 --> 02:29.280] I would have just thought it was a bad cold.

[02:29.280 --> 02:31.280] I wouldn't have thought of any different about it.

[02:31.280 --> 02:32.280] You know what I mean?

[02:32.280 --> 02:33.280] Not even flu level.

[02:33.280 --> 02:34.280] I've had the flu.

[02:34.280 --> 02:35.280] Flu is worse than this.

[02:35.280 --> 02:36.280] At least my version of it.

[02:36.280 --> 02:37.280] I know every one is different.

[02:37.280 --> 02:39.280] And you can get a much more severe.

[02:39.280 --> 02:42.280] What I had was somewhere between a cold and a flu.

[02:42.280 --> 02:43.280] Sounds about right.

[02:43.280 --> 02:45.280] Still sucks, but yeah.

[02:45.280 --> 02:47.280] And there's apparently a very long tail.

[02:47.280 --> 02:49.280] It doesn't just go away.

[02:49.280 --> 02:51.280] It takes people who've had this version.

[02:51.280 --> 02:53.280] Yeah, mine was about three weeks.

[02:53.280 --> 02:54.280] Yeah, it's about three weeks.

[02:54.280 --> 02:55.280] Mine was about three.

[02:55.280 --> 02:57.280] And don't forget, guys, that there is also

[02:57.280 --> 03:00.280] that very distinct possibility that after you feel good

[03:00.280 --> 03:03.280] for a couple of weeks, you'll get hit with incredible fatigue.

[03:03.280 --> 03:05.280] Yeah, I heard that too.

[03:05.280 --> 03:06.280] Oh, yeah.

[03:06.280 --> 03:08.280] Yeah, that got me and my wife nobody's business.

[03:08.280 --> 03:12.280] One day, I asked my wife, I'm like, are you exhausted?

[03:12.280 --> 03:14.280] Do you feel like somebody unplugged your energy?

[03:14.280 --> 03:15.280] And she's like, yeah.

[03:15.280 --> 03:17.280] Like, it hit us literally on the same day.

[03:17.280 --> 03:18.280] It was crazy.

[03:18.280 --> 03:20.280] Steve, what are the latest recommendations

[03:20.280 --> 03:22.280] about quarantining now when you have it?

[03:22.280 --> 03:23.280] Is it five days?

[03:23.280 --> 03:26.280] Yeah, five days from the time when you test positive,

[03:26.280 --> 03:29.280] assuming you're not febrile, right?

[03:29.280 --> 03:33.280] Although my workplace required seven days.

[03:33.280 --> 03:35.280] I couldn't go into work for seven days.

[03:35.280 --> 03:36.280] I still don't understand that.

[03:36.280 --> 03:37.280] I don't understand.

[03:37.280 --> 03:41.280] Like, if you're testing positive, you have a viral load.

[03:41.280 --> 03:42.280] Yeah.

[03:42.280 --> 03:43.280] You are infectious.

[03:43.280 --> 03:46.280] You should not go anywhere until your viral load

[03:46.280 --> 03:48.280] drops enough that you're testing negative.

[03:48.280 --> 03:51.280] It just makes no sense that it's five days, seven days,

[03:51.280 --> 03:53.280] 10 days, whatever the CDC keeps throwing around.

[03:53.280 --> 03:57.280] If you're still positive, you should not be around people.

[03:57.280 --> 04:00.280] Yeah, but I tell you, it's five days isolation

[04:00.280 --> 04:03.280] and then 10 days of masking and social distancing.

[04:03.280 --> 04:05.280] And those recommendations are based on the fact

[04:05.280 --> 04:08.280] that most people have either had it or are vaccinated by now,

[04:08.280 --> 04:09.280] right?

[04:09.280 --> 04:10.280] Right.

[04:10.280 --> 04:12.280] It's the idea that it's not as bad of an illness anymore

[04:12.280 --> 04:15.280] because it's not a naive population.

[04:15.280 --> 04:18.280] It's an increasingly resistant population.

[04:18.280 --> 04:22.280] And so how much are we going to disrupt society for what,

[04:22.280 --> 04:25.280] for most people, will be a bad cold, right?

[04:25.280 --> 04:26.280] So that's part of the calculation.

[04:26.280 --> 04:30.280] It's not just like 100% preventing transmission.

[04:30.280 --> 04:31.280] It's the trade-off.

[04:31.280 --> 04:35.280] What are we going to give up for reducing the transmission?

[04:35.280 --> 04:38.280] Remember, people forget the whole flattening the curve

[04:38.280 --> 04:39.280] thing.

[04:39.280 --> 04:40.280] Yeah.

[04:40.280 --> 04:43.280] And the point of the really severe restrictions early on

[04:43.280 --> 04:46.280] was to keep hospitals from getting overwhelmed.

[04:46.280 --> 04:50.280] And that's not really an issue anymore because the Paxilavid

[04:50.280 --> 04:52.280] and everything, it's like the hospitalization issue

[04:52.280 --> 04:53.280] is not as severe.

[04:53.280 --> 04:56.280] It's just funny to me that the idea now is sort of like,

[04:56.280 --> 04:58.280] OK, you're better but not completely better.

[04:58.280 --> 05:00.280] You can go back to work.

[05:00.280 --> 05:02.280] And I know that this has always been the way, right?

[05:02.280 --> 05:05.280] People go to work with colds all the time, but they shouldn't.

[05:05.280 --> 05:06.280] They shouldn't.

[05:06.280 --> 05:08.280] I'm always like, why are you here?

[05:08.280 --> 05:09.280] Go home.

[05:09.280 --> 05:10.280] That's never a good idea.

[05:10.280 --> 05:12.280] Yeah, it's worse than that because a lot, especially

[05:12.280 --> 05:15.280] in the United States, a lot of employers

[05:15.280 --> 05:17.280] like don't want you to take sick days.

[05:17.280 --> 05:18.280] I know.

[05:18.280 --> 05:20.280] And it's messed up because, of course, it's clear

[05:20.280 --> 05:23.280] that this is speaking from a position of privilege.

[05:23.280 --> 05:26.280] But when we look at it from a structural perspective,

[05:26.280 --> 05:28.280] sure, yes, from an individual perspective,

[05:28.280 --> 05:30.280] it's absolutely a position of privilege

[05:30.280 --> 05:32.280] to say I don't want to go to work because I'm sick

[05:32.280 --> 05:34.280] or I don't want you to go to work while you're sick

[05:34.280 --> 05:35.280] because I don't want to get sick.

[05:35.280 --> 05:37.280] But from a structural perspective,

[05:37.280 --> 05:40.280] it saves everybody money if people don't go to work

[05:40.280 --> 05:41.280] when they're sick.

[05:41.280 --> 05:43.280] Including the employer because they're not going to now

[05:43.280 --> 05:45.280] have a rash of sickness among their employees.

[05:45.280 --> 05:46.280] Right.

[05:46.280 --> 05:47.280] But here's the other thing.

[05:47.280 --> 05:52.280] I think people are more likely to mask if they have a cold.

[05:52.280 --> 05:54.280] They're more likely to stay at home.

[05:54.280 --> 05:56.280] And also, for me, I did telehealth all week.

[05:56.280 --> 05:58.280] It's not like I couldn't do anything.

[05:58.280 --> 06:00.280] I think people will just work from home if they're sick.

[06:00.280 --> 06:03.280] Yeah, that's how I was after my surgery.

[06:03.280 --> 06:05.280] If you have that kind of job, yeah.

[06:05.280 --> 06:07.280] You didn't even have those advantages, say, 20 years ago.

[06:07.280 --> 06:11.280] So up until only recent times has this been a possibility

[06:11.280 --> 06:14.280] for a good amount of the working population

[06:14.280 --> 06:16.280] to have opportunities to work from home effectively.

[06:16.280 --> 06:17.280] Yeah.

[06:17.280 --> 06:18.280] Frogs.

[06:18.280 --> 06:19.280] True.

[06:19.280 --> 06:20.280] Frogs.

[06:20.280 --> 06:21.280] I just haven't said anything.

[06:21.280 --> 06:23.280] I don't want to.

[06:23.280 --> 06:24.280] No, that's a good word.

[06:24.280 --> 06:25.280] Yeah.

[06:25.280 --> 06:26.280] Bob has no opinion other than frogs.

[06:26.280 --> 06:27.280] Interesting choice.

[06:27.280 --> 06:28.280] I like toadles.

[06:28.280 --> 06:30.280] I like turtles.

[06:30.280 --> 06:32.280] Hey, I have some news.

[06:32.280 --> 06:33.280] Oh, yeah?

[06:33.280 --> 06:34.280] What?

[06:34.280 --> 06:37.280] You're on the show live from Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

[06:37.280 --> 06:38.280] Florida?

[06:38.280 --> 06:40.280] Yeah, you're on the East Coast with us now.

[06:40.280 --> 06:41.280] Whoa.

[06:41.280 --> 06:42.280] Low ride in our time zone.

[06:42.280 --> 06:43.280] Low fame in our time zone.

[06:43.280 --> 06:44.280] Late at night.

[06:44.280 --> 06:45.280] Wow.

[06:45.280 --> 06:46.280] Yeah.

[06:46.280 --> 06:47.280] And I'll tell you, it is hot.

[06:47.280 --> 06:48.280] It is hot outside.

[06:48.280 --> 06:49.280] It is humid.

[06:49.280 --> 06:50.280] But I love it.

[06:50.280 --> 06:52.280] It has been really beautiful.

[06:52.280 --> 06:54.280] So far, the bugs have not eaten me alive.

[06:54.280 --> 06:56.280] I think that's just been luck.

[06:56.280 --> 06:58.280] I'm not going to count those chickens.

[06:58.280 --> 07:00.280] But it's lovely here.

[07:00.280 --> 07:03.280] And the people, I will say, I had forgotten how nice the people

[07:03.280 --> 07:04.280] are in the South.

[07:04.280 --> 07:06.280] They're just so friendly.

[07:06.280 --> 07:10.280] My favorite part so far, I mean, I've only been here a few days,

[07:10.280 --> 07:12.280] is all of the herps.

[07:12.280 --> 07:16.280] There are so many lizards in just different reptiles in Florida.

[07:16.280 --> 07:20.280] You're taking a walk down the street, and there's iguanas everywhere.

[07:20.280 --> 07:22.280] It's so cool.

[07:22.280 --> 07:23.280] Like, huge iguanas.

[07:23.280 --> 07:24.280] I felt like I was in the Galapagos.

[07:24.280 --> 07:25.280] Huge.

[07:25.280 --> 07:26.280] That's, yeah.

[07:26.280 --> 07:27.280] Like, eight, 10 feet.

[07:27.280 --> 07:28.280] Oh, wait.

[07:28.280 --> 07:29.280] That's an alligator.

[07:29.280 --> 07:30.280] Big, big iguanas.

[07:30.280 --> 07:31.280] They got those, too.

[07:31.280 --> 07:32.280] And I haven't seen any alligators yet.

[07:32.280 --> 07:35.280] But by every body of water I've walked by, and there are little bodies

[07:35.280 --> 07:38.280] of water everywhere, like little ponds everywhere.

[07:38.280 --> 07:40.280] There are iguanas kind of surrounding them.

[07:40.280 --> 07:44.280] And there are anoles and lots of small lizards, too, running around

[07:44.280 --> 07:46.280] and, like, geckos and things.

[07:46.280 --> 07:50.280] But the only other place I've seen iguanas in the world is the Galapagos.

[07:50.280 --> 07:51.280] I'm not sure where else they are.

[07:51.280 --> 07:54.280] I also know that Florida has flamingos, and the only other place in the

[07:54.280 --> 07:57.280] world that has flamingos are, I mean, it's multiple countries,

[07:57.280 --> 07:59.280] but several African countries.

[07:59.280 --> 08:05.280] But, yeah, just the ecology here is unique and really exciting,

[08:05.280 --> 08:09.280] and it's kind of a reason that a lot of people really do enjoy Florida.

[08:09.280 --> 08:13.280] There are things about Florida I don't like, but I'm trying to silver line.

[08:13.280 --> 08:15.280] Well, that leads into my question.

[08:15.280 --> 08:17.280] Like, have you seen any sightings?

[08:17.280 --> 08:18.280] Have you had any sightings of...

[08:18.280 --> 08:19.280] Of Florida Man?

[08:19.280 --> 08:20.280] Florida Man?

[08:20.280 --> 08:21.280] Oh, yeah.

[08:21.280 --> 08:24.280] I've seen Florida Man, like, 50 times already.

[08:24.280 --> 08:25.280] Whoa.

[08:25.280 --> 08:26.280] They're all over the place.

[08:26.280 --> 08:28.280] Florida Man is everywhere you look.

[08:28.280 --> 08:31.280] I haven't yet, but there's also so much great stuff here,

[08:31.280 --> 08:33.280] and everybody's just been really friendly and really neighborly,

[08:33.280 --> 08:37.280] and I start my first day of my internship tomorrow.

[08:37.280 --> 08:38.280] Oh, boy.

[08:38.280 --> 08:39.280] So we'll see how that goes.

[08:39.280 --> 08:40.280] Wow, good luck.

Announcements (8:40)

  • 6-hour live stream

[08:40.280 --> 08:45.280] Hey, this is a good time to let our audience know that we have an

[08:45.280 --> 08:47.280] upcoming live stream.

[08:47.280 --> 08:55.280] This is going to be a six-hour SGU live show on September 24th,

[08:55.280 --> 09:01.280] so just three weeks after this show comes out, 12 p.m. to 6 p.m. Eastern time.

[09:01.280 --> 09:02.280] 12 noon.

[09:02.280 --> 09:03.280] 12 noon.

[09:03.280 --> 09:04.280] It's still p.m., right?

[09:04.280 --> 09:05.280] Yes, it is.

[09:05.280 --> 09:06.280] It is p.m.

[09:06.280 --> 09:07.280] No, it's not.

[09:07.280 --> 09:08.280] Yes, it is.

[09:08.280 --> 09:09.280] 12 noon is...

[09:09.280 --> 09:10.280] 12 noon is...

[09:10.280 --> 09:11.280] There is no 12 p.m.

[09:11.280 --> 09:13.280] It makes no logical sense.

[09:13.280 --> 09:14.280] Move on.

[09:14.280 --> 09:15.280] Oh, no, we're doing this again.

[09:15.280 --> 09:16.280] All right, move on.

[09:16.280 --> 09:21.280] Hey, Bob, what time zone is it at the North Pole?

[09:21.280 --> 09:23.280] Jay, don't listen to her.

[09:23.280 --> 09:27.280] If it's 12 p.m. in the North Pole, go ahead.

[09:27.280 --> 09:30.280] 12 noon to 6 p.m. Eastern time.

[09:30.280 --> 09:31.280] Thank you.

[09:31.280 --> 09:33.280] We will be doing a six-hour SGU live stream.

[09:33.280 --> 09:35.280] It's going to be a lot of fun.

[09:35.280 --> 09:41.280] Put that on your calendar, and we'll be letting everybody know how to sign into that.

[09:41.280 --> 09:43.280] It's free and open to the public.

[09:43.280 --> 09:48.280] Well, we're going to be doing a couple of SGU episodes, and we're going to be

[09:48.280 --> 09:51.280] doing a deep dive on the book, the new book coming out.

[09:51.280 --> 09:52.280] Yeah.

[09:52.280 --> 09:58.280] Among other things, and guests, and possibly food being prepared live in Steve's kitchen.

[09:58.280 --> 09:59.280] Possibly.

[09:59.280 --> 10:00.280] I hope so.

[10:00.280 --> 10:01.280] At some point, that will probably happen.

[10:01.280 --> 10:02.280] I'm going to be hungry.

[10:02.280 --> 10:03.280] Yeah.

[10:03.280 --> 10:04.280] Those are always a lot of fun.

[10:04.280 --> 10:05.280] And six hours now is like nothing.

[10:05.280 --> 10:06.280] You know, we could do six hours.

[10:06.280 --> 10:07.280] We're just getting started.

[10:07.280 --> 10:08.280] Six hours.

[10:08.280 --> 10:09.280] Yep.

[10:09.280 --> 10:10.280] Just getting warmed up.

[10:10.280 --> 10:14.280] Just getting warmed up.

[10:14.280 --> 10:19.280] And just one other sort of chatty thing before we get to the news items is we were very anxiously

[10:19.280 --> 10:24.280] following the countdown to the Artemis 1 launch on Monday.

[10:24.280 --> 10:25.280] Oh, boy.

[10:25.280 --> 10:26.280] But it got scrubbed.

[10:26.280 --> 10:27.280] That scrubbed.

[10:27.280 --> 10:31.280] They had a pressure issue in one of the tanks.

[10:31.280 --> 10:32.280] Was it pressure or temperature?

[10:32.280 --> 10:33.280] One of those things.

[10:33.280 --> 10:37.280] And they couldn't fix it in the two-hour launch window that they had.

[10:37.280 --> 10:41.280] So as soon as they realized we're not going to fix this in time, they had to scrub it.

[10:41.280 --> 10:43.280] I read that it could have been a faulty sensor.

[10:43.280 --> 10:45.280] There might not have been an actual problem.

[10:45.280 --> 10:46.280] Right.

[10:46.280 --> 10:47.280] But whatever.

[10:47.280 --> 10:48.280] It doesn't matter.

[10:48.280 --> 10:49.280] Absolutely.

[10:49.280 --> 10:51.280] You can't risk this at this point.

[10:51.280 --> 10:53.280] Do they have another launch date now?

[10:53.280 --> 10:54.280] Friday, I believe.

[10:54.280 --> 10:55.280] Tomorrow.

[10:55.280 --> 10:57.280] Well, it's tomorrow or yesterday.

[10:57.280 --> 10:58.280] Yesterday.

[10:58.280 --> 10:59.280] Yeah.

[10:59.280 --> 11:00.280] Time travel.

[11:00.280 --> 11:01.280] It's in two days or yesterday to begin.

[11:01.280 --> 11:02.280] How will it go yesterday?

[11:02.280 --> 11:03.280] We will find out.

[11:03.280 --> 11:04.280] Tomorrow.

[11:04.280 --> 11:05.280] Stay tuned.

[11:05.280 --> 11:09.280] As you're listening to this, you probably know more than we do as you're recording it.

[11:09.280 --> 11:11.280] We know more than we do right now.

[11:11.280 --> 11:14.280] We'll give an update next week one way or the other.

[11:14.280 --> 11:16.280] I know podcast time.

[11:16.280 --> 11:18.280] It's all timey-wimey.

[11:18.280 --> 11:19.280] Talk about time travel.

[11:19.280 --> 11:20.280] Timey-wimey.

[11:20.280 --> 11:22.280] Boy, try doing a podcast for 18 years.

[11:22.280 --> 11:24.280] All right, let's go on with some news items.

News Items

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(laughs) (laughter) (applause) [inaudible]

Hot Summer (11:24)

Tear Down This Paywall (21:04)

Volcano Catastrophe (30:09)

Solar Energy Update (44:19)

Perovskite panels (48:20)

Organic panels (54:33)

"Wildcards" panels (1:01:37)

Interview with Dr. Seema Yasmin (1:07:53)

Who's That Noisy? (1:26:50)


New Noisy (1:30:50)

[male voice? shushing in perhaps an Asian language]

J: ... what is that that we're hearing.

More Announcements (1:31:27)

Science or Fiction (1:33:24)

Theme: Common Myths

Item #1: The notion that humans have as many hair follicles as chimpanzees, on average, is false, with our closest cousins having 2-3 times as many as humans.[5]
Item #2: Bagpipes do not have their origin in Scotland, but are rather an ancient instrument. In fact, Nero was more likely to have played the bagpipes than the fiddle while Rome burned (although that is also a myth).[6]
Item #3: Contrary to common lore, the QWERTY keyboard layout was not created to limit jamming but rather was designed for convenience.[7]

Answer Item
Fiction Chimps: 2-3x more follicles
Science Bagpipes not Scottish in origin
Science
Qwerty made for convenience
Host Result
Steve win
Rogue Guess
Evan
Qwerty made for convenience
Bob
Chimps: 2-3x more follicles
Cara
Chimps: 2-3x more follicles
Jay
Chimps: 2-3x more follicles

Voice-over: It's time for Science or Fiction.

Evan's Response

Bob's Response

Cara's Response

Jay's Response

Steve Explains Item #2

Steve Explains Item #1

Steve Explains Item #3

Skeptical Quote of the Week (1:46:35)

If you have an effect that nobody can replicate, then your phenomenon fades away. So if you want to have a legacy, then you jolly well better have an effect that replicates.
Susan Fiske, American social psychologist

Signoff/Announcements

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