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== Introduction ==
== Introduction, Live from NECSS, Book Update ==
 
* Perry DeAngelis Memorial Episode
 
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== CHORIZO <small>(7:09)</small> ==  
== Special Segment: Chorizo Hoax <small>(7:09)</small> ==  
* [https://www.vice.com/en/article/akeemk/chorizo-james-webb-space-telescope French Scientist's Photo of ‘Distant Star’ Was Actually Chorizo]


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* [https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/nih-to-fund-scientific-rigor-initiative/ NIH To Fund Scientific Rigor Initiative]<ref>[https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/nih-to-fund-scientific-rigor-initiative/ Neurologica: NIH To Fund Scientific Rigor Initiative]</ref>
   
   
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=== More Space Debris <small>(23:51)</small> ===
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* [https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/why-space-debris-keeps-falling-out-of-the-sky-and-will-continue-to-do-so/ Why space debris keeps falling out of the sky—and will continue to do so]<ref>[https://arstechnica.com/science/2022/08/why-space-debris-keeps-falling-out-of-the-sky-and-will-continue-to-do-so/ Ars Technica: Why space debris keeps falling out of the sky—and will continue to do so]</ref>


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=== Auditory Pareidolia Again <small>(34:16)</small> ===
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* [https://www.today.com/popculture/green-needle-or-brainstorm-hear-latest-audio-clip-dividing-internet-t188193 'Green needle' or 'brainstorm'? Hear the latest audio clip dividing the internet]<ref>[https://www.today.com/popculture/green-needle-or-brainstorm-hear-latest-audio-clip-dividing-internet-t188193 Today: 'Green needle' or 'brainstorm'? Hear the latest audio clip dividing the internet]</ref>


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* [https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/jury-alex-jones-defamation-case-begin-deliberations-punitive-damages-2022-08-05/ Jury awards $45.2 million in punitive damages in Alex Jones Sandy Hook trial]<ref>[https://www.reuters.com/business/media-telecom/jury-alex-jones-defamation-case-begin-deliberations-punitive-damages-2022-08-05/ Reuters: Jury awards $45.2 million in punitive damages in Alex Jones Sandy Hook trial]</ref>


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=== Earth Spinning Faster <small>(58:21)</small> ===
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'''GH:''' ''(in a Russian accent)''
'''GH:''' ''(in a Russian accent)'' I think is basically—I don't trust, I don't trust the media because I am inebriated. And feel free to talk about— ''(Rogues laugh.)''


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SGU Episode 893
August 20th 2022
893 alex jones.jpg

Alex Jones' lawyer accidentally sent two years' worth of texts to plaintiffs' lawyers

SGU 892                      SGU 894

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

J: Jay Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

Guests

AJR: Andrea Jones-Rooy,
political, social, and data scientist

KB: Kelly Burke, from Guerrilla Skeptics

GH: George Hrab, NECSS emcee

IC: Ian Callanan, SGU tech guru

Quote of the Week

An educated person is one who has learned that information almost always turns out to be at best incomplete and very often false, misleading, fictitious, mendacious – just dead wrong.

Russell Baker, American journalist

Links
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Show Notes
Forum Discussion

Introduction, Live from NECSS, Book Update

  • Perry DeAngelis Memorial Episode

Voice-over: You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.

Special Segment: Chorizo Hoax (7:09)

News Items

S:

B:

C:

J:

E:

(laughs) (laughter) (applause) [inaudible]

Scientific Rigor (13:25)

More Space Debris (23:51)

Auditory Pareidolia Again (34:16)

The Alex Jones Saga (39:15)

Earth Spinning Faster (58:21)

Science or Fiction (1:11:11)

Theme: Misinformation

Item #1: Reported trust in the media in 2021 was highest in China at 80%, and lowest in Russia at 29%, with the US in between at 39%.[6]
Item #2: Analysis of social media posts finds that bots are far more likely to spread false information and are responsible for as much as 90% of its spread on the most popular platforms.[7]
Item #3: Research shows that fake news spreads 6 times faster and 10 times farther on Twitter than true news, and that people are 70% more likely to share a false tweet than a truthful one.[8]

Answer Item
Fiction Bots spread 90% of disinfo
Science Reported trust in the media
Science
Fake news faster & farther
Host Result
Steve win
Rogue Guess
Evan
 Reported trust in the media
Kelly
 Reported trust in the media
Jay
 Reported trust in the media
Bob
 Reported trust in the media
Andrea
 Bots spread 90% of disinfo

Voice-over: It's time for Science or Fiction.

Evan's Response

Kelly's Response

Jay's Response

Bob's Response

Andrea's Response

Audience's Responses

Steve Explains Item #3

Steve Explains Item #2

Steve Explains Item #1

Skeptical Quote of the Week (1:24:57)

An educated person is one who has learned that information almost always turns out to be at best incomplete and very often false, misleading, fictitious, mendacious – just dead wrong.
– Russell Baker (1925-2019), American journalist and Pulitzer Prize-winning writer, host of PBS' Masterpiece Theater

Signoff/Announcements

S: —and until next week, this is your Skeptics' Guide to the Universe.

S: Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by SGU Productions, dedicated to promoting science and critical thinking. For more information, visit us at theskepticsguide.org. Send your questions to info@theskepticsguide.org. And, if you would like to support the show and all the work that we do, go to patreon.com/SkepticsGuide and consider becoming a patron and becoming part of the SGU community. Our listeners and supporters are what make SGU possible.


GH: (in a Russian accent) I think is basically—I don't trust, I don't trust the media because I am inebriated. And feel free to talk about— (Rogues laugh.)

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Today I Learned

  • Fact/Description, possibly with an article reference[9]
  • Fact/Description
  • Fact/Description

Notes

References

  1. ↑ Neurologica: NIH To Fund Scientific Rigor Initiative
  2. ↑ Ars Technica: Why space debris keeps falling out of the sky—and will continue to do so
  3. ↑ Today: 'Green needle' or 'brainstorm'? Hear the latest audio clip dividing the internet
  4. ↑ Reuters: Jury awards $45.2 million in punitive damages in Alex Jones Sandy Hook trial
  5. ↑ Forbes: Earth Is Suddenly Spinning Faster. Why Our Planet Just Recorded Its Shortest Day Since Records Began
  6. ↑ Statista.com: Level of trust in media in selected countries worldwide as of November 2021
  7. ↑ Science: The spread of true and false news online
  8. ↑ Science: Fake news spreads faster than true news on Twitter—thanks to people, not bots
  9. ↑ [url_for_TIL publication: title]

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