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== Introduction == | == Introduction == | ||
''You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.'' | ''You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.'' | ||
== News Items | == News Items == | ||
=== Largest Planet Discovered <small>()</small> === | === Largest Planet Discovered <small>(1:15)</small> === | ||
* www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/08/07/883737-scientists-discover-largest-known-planet<br/> | * www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/08/07/883737-scientists-discover-largest-known-planet<br/> | ||
=== New Da Vinci Code Conspiracy <small>()</small> === | === New Da Vinci Code Conspiracy <small>(6:35)</small> === | ||
* www.skepchick.org/blog/?p=639<br/>www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/30/wvinci130.xml<br/> | * www.skepchick.org/blog/?p=639<br/>www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/30/wvinci130.xml<br/> | ||
=== Korean Stem Cell Follow up <small>()</small> === | === Man Wakes from Coma <small>(13:36)</small> === | ||
=== Korean Stem Cell Follow up <small>(22:41)</small> === | |||
* www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/02/news/stem.php<br/> | * www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/02/news/stem.php<br/> | ||
=== UFO Followup Mystery Solved <small>()</small> === | === UFO Followup Mystery Solved <small>(25:30)</small> === | ||
* www.watfordobserver.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1582237.mostviewed.ufo_mystery_solved.php<br/> | * www.watfordobserver.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1582237.mostviewed.ufo_mystery_solved.php<br/> | ||
== Questions and E-mails | == Questions and E-mails == | ||
=== Using Unproven Therapies <small>()</small> === | === Using Unproven Therapies <small>(28:57)</small> === | ||
<blockquote>Skeptical rogues and roguette-<br/><br/>My question is this: might it not be reasonable for a skeptical, rational-thinking individual to turn to an herbal remedy or other medication which has not made it through this rigorous vetting process, and which has only anecdotal or preliminary evidence supporting its use, if they are desperate for some treatment (any treatment), and if evidence-based medicine has nothing to offer them?<br/><br/>David<br/>USA<br/><br/>Dr. Novellas Blog entry on this topic: www.theness.com/neurologicablog/default.asp?Display=150<br/></blockquote> | <blockquote>Skeptical rogues and roguette-<br/><br/>My question is this: might it not be reasonable for a skeptical, rational-thinking individual to turn to an herbal remedy or other medication which has not made it through this rigorous vetting process, and which has only anecdotal or preliminary evidence supporting its use, if they are desperate for some treatment (any treatment), and if evidence-based medicine has nothing to offer them?<br/><br/>David<br/>USA<br/><br/>Dr. Novellas Blog entry on this topic: www.theness.com/neurologicablog/default.asp?Display=150<br/></blockquote> | ||
=== CO2 from walking vs driving <small>()</small> === | === CO2 from walking vs driving <small>(37:43)</small> === | ||
<blockquote>I ran across this interesting article from the UK, where it's suggested that walking to the store is worse for the environment than driving;<br/><br/>www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2195538.ece<br/><br/>Jaan<br/><br/>Rebecca's Blog on the topic<br/>skepchick.org/skepticsguide/viewtopic.php?t=4238<br/></blockquote> | <blockquote>I ran across this interesting article from the UK, where it's suggested that walking to the store is worse for the environment than driving;<br/><br/>www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2195538.ece<br/><br/>Jaan<br/><br/>Rebecca's Blog on the topic<br/>skepchick.org/skepticsguide/viewtopic.php?t=4238<br/></blockquote> | ||
=== AI Sense of Humor <small>()</small> === | === AI Sense of Humor <small>(44:29)</small> === | ||
<blockquote>As always thanks for providing an excellent podcast to start my week off just right. However last week I did find one thing to gripe about a bit. One of my favorite segments is the science or fiction portion and while I am definately not always right I generally understand the correct answer. However last week even after learning the true stories I did not feel that the AI with a sense of humor should be classified as science. To me 'sense of humor' describes something more than just the way something is delivered. If I am understanding correctly this program detects variations in the voice that are commonly associated with telling a joke, much the same way a lie-detector tries to determine truth through bio patterns. Perhaps a 'joke-detecting' AI was made, but just as sweaty palms don't constitute a lie, the right inflections in the voice don't always make humor.<br/><br/>Unfortunately I think we still only have 'Data'; able to understand that a joke has been told, yet unable to find the humor in it. Hence, in my view, Data had no sense of humor.<br/>Maybe I'm way off base here, but I'm sure you'll let me know if I am!<br/><br/>Anyways keep the great work coming!<br/><br/>Kyle Cook<br/>Bowling Green<br/></blockquote> | <blockquote>As always thanks for providing an excellent podcast to start my week off just right. However last week I did find one thing to gripe about a bit. One of my favorite segments is the science or fiction portion and while I am definately not always right I generally understand the correct answer. However last week even after learning the true stories I did not feel that the AI with a sense of humor should be classified as science. To me 'sense of humor' describes something more than just the way something is delivered. If I am understanding correctly this program detects variations in the voice that are commonly associated with telling a joke, much the same way a lie-detector tries to determine truth through bio patterns. Perhaps a 'joke-detecting' AI was made, but just as sweaty palms don't constitute a lie, the right inflections in the voice don't always make humor.<br/><br/>Unfortunately I think we still only have 'Data'; able to understand that a joke has been told, yet unable to find the humor in it. Hence, in my view, Data had no sense of humor.<br/>Maybe I'm way off base here, but I'm sure you'll let me know if I am!<br/><br/>Anyways keep the great work coming!<br/><br/>Kyle Cook<br/>Bowling Green<br/></blockquote> | ||
== Name That Logical Fallacy <small>()</small> == | == Name That Logical Fallacy <small>(49:01)</small> == | ||
* Logical Fallacies | * Logical Fallacies | ||
<blockquote>'Say I am arguing against someone about fossil fuel usage. I state that the average American should drive a fuel efficient vehicle to lower the amount of fuel that is used. The person that I am arguing against then tells me that since I drive a car that is not fuel efficient I cannot expect and tell others to drive different vehicles.'<br/><br/>skepchick.org/skepticsguide/viewtopic.php?t=4255<br/></blockquote> | <blockquote>'Say I am arguing against someone about fossil fuel usage. I state that the average American should drive a fuel efficient vehicle to lower the amount of fuel that is used. The person that I am arguing against then tells me that since I drive a car that is not fuel efficient I cannot expect and tell others to drive different vehicles.'<br/><br/>skepchick.org/skepticsguide/viewtopic.php?t=4255<br/></blockquote> | ||
== Randi Speaks <small>()</small> == | == Randi Speaks <small>(52:37)</small> == | ||
* The Uncompromising Observations of a Veteran Skeptic<br/><br/>James Randi returns to give his skeptical commentary in his own unique style.<br/><br/>This week's topic: Acupuncture | * The Uncompromising Observations of a Veteran Skeptic<br/><br/>James Randi returns to give his skeptical commentary in his own unique style.<br/><br/>This week's topic: Acupuncture | ||
== Science or Fiction <small>()</small> == | == Science or Fiction <small>(57:31)</small> == | ||
Question #1: New study shows that drinking milk after weight lifting led to more fat loss and greater muscle gain that drinking soy or a carbohydrate drink. | Question #1: New study shows that drinking milk after weight lifting led to more fat loss and greater muscle gain that drinking soy or a carbohydrate drink. | ||
Question #2: New study suggests that the elderly should be eating more vegetables and less meat in order to maintain their muscle mass. | Question #2: New study suggests that the elderly should be eating more vegetables and less meat in order to maintain their muscle mass. | ||
Question #3: A new animal study suggests that low calorie or diet foods and drinks may lead to obesity. | Question #3: A new animal study suggests that low calorie or diet foods and drinks may lead to obesity. | ||
== Skeptical Puzzle <small>()</small> == | == Skeptical Puzzle <small>(1:11:00)</small> == | ||
<blockquote>This Week's Puzzle:<br/><br/>I sure hate this delusional person<br/>Though hate may be a word too strong<br/>As I learn more, my opinion does worsen<br/>Perhaps I won't re-write this song<br/><br/>Micro set scams were just some of his wares<br/>He claims he is spiritual at heart<br/>A dozen or so of these blessings are shared<br/>Jesus could only hope to Master their art<br/><br/>From his website I read, as they humbly plead<br/>That they can lay hands and cure you of ills<br/>Just join them and pray, for you will see one day<br/>You've found their holy mountains and hills<br/><br/>For it was their king, that taught them these things<br/>They are simply swine to this pearl thrower<br/>A doctor, a reverend, and a knight, so he sings<br/>But it was yoga that made him a knower<br/><br/>Name the person.<br/><br/><br/>Last Week's puzzle:<br/><br/><br/>What do you call a snake handler who appears between a stinger and a shooter?<br/><br/>Answer: Ophiucus<br/>Winner: Cap Sponge<br/></blockquote> | <blockquote>This Week's Puzzle:<br/><br/>I sure hate this delusional person<br/>Though hate may be a word too strong<br/>As I learn more, my opinion does worsen<br/>Perhaps I won't re-write this song<br/><br/>Micro set scams were just some of his wares<br/>He claims he is spiritual at heart<br/>A dozen or so of these blessings are shared<br/>Jesus could only hope to Master their art<br/><br/>From his website I read, as they humbly plead<br/>That they can lay hands and cure you of ills<br/>Just join them and pray, for you will see one day<br/>You've found their holy mountains and hills<br/><br/>For it was their king, that taught them these things<br/>They are simply swine to this pearl thrower<br/>A doctor, a reverend, and a knight, so he sings<br/>But it was yoga that made him a knower<br/><br/>Name the person.<br/><br/><br/>Last Week's puzzle:<br/><br/><br/>What do you call a snake handler who appears between a stinger and a shooter?<br/><br/>Answer: Ophiucus<br/>Winner: Cap Sponge<br/></blockquote> | ||
== Quote of the Week <small>()</small> == | == Quote of the Week <small>(1:15:00)</small> == | ||
<blockquote>'To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting.'- Stanislaus I (1677-1766) a Polish king 'of some note.'</blockquote> | <blockquote>'To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting.'- Stanislaus I (1677-1766) a Polish king 'of some note.'</blockquote> | ||
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Introduction
You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.
News Items
Largest Planet Discovered (1:15)
- www.newsvine.com/_news/2007/08/07/883737-scientists-discover-largest-known-planet
New Da Vinci Code Conspiracy (6:35)
- www.skepchick.org/blog/?p=639
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/07/30/wvinci130.xml
Man Wakes from Coma (13:36)
Korean Stem Cell Follow up (22:41)
- www.iht.com/articles/2007/08/02/news/stem.php
UFO Followup Mystery Solved (25:30)
- www.watfordobserver.co.uk/mostpopular.var.1582237.mostviewed.ufo_mystery_solved.php
Questions and E-mails
Using Unproven Therapies (28:57)
Skeptical rogues and roguette-
My question is this: might it not be reasonable for a skeptical, rational-thinking individual to turn to an herbal remedy or other medication which has not made it through this rigorous vetting process, and which has only anecdotal or preliminary evidence supporting its use, if they are desperate for some treatment (any treatment), and if evidence-based medicine has nothing to offer them?
David
USA
Dr. Novellas Blog entry on this topic: www.theness.com/neurologicablog/default.asp?Display=150
CO2 from walking vs driving (37:43)
I ran across this interesting article from the UK, where it's suggested that walking to the store is worse for the environment than driving;
www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/science/article2195538.ece
Jaan
Rebecca's Blog on the topic
skepchick.org/skepticsguide/viewtopic.php?t=4238
AI Sense of Humor (44:29)
As always thanks for providing an excellent podcast to start my week off just right. However last week I did find one thing to gripe about a bit. One of my favorite segments is the science or fiction portion and while I am definately not always right I generally understand the correct answer. However last week even after learning the true stories I did not feel that the AI with a sense of humor should be classified as science. To me 'sense of humor' describes something more than just the way something is delivered. If I am understanding correctly this program detects variations in the voice that are commonly associated with telling a joke, much the same way a lie-detector tries to determine truth through bio patterns. Perhaps a 'joke-detecting' AI was made, but just as sweaty palms don't constitute a lie, the right inflections in the voice don't always make humor.
Unfortunately I think we still only have 'Data'; able to understand that a joke has been told, yet unable to find the humor in it. Hence, in my view, Data had no sense of humor.
Maybe I'm way off base here, but I'm sure you'll let me know if I am!
Anyways keep the great work coming!
Kyle Cook
Bowling Green
Name That Logical Fallacy (49:01)
- Logical Fallacies
'Say I am arguing against someone about fossil fuel usage. I state that the average American should drive a fuel efficient vehicle to lower the amount of fuel that is used. The person that I am arguing against then tells me that since I drive a car that is not fuel efficient I cannot expect and tell others to drive different vehicles.'
skepchick.org/skepticsguide/viewtopic.php?t=4255
Randi Speaks (52:37)
- The Uncompromising Observations of a Veteran Skeptic
James Randi returns to give his skeptical commentary in his own unique style.
This week's topic: Acupuncture
Science or Fiction (57:31)
Question #1: New study shows that drinking milk after weight lifting led to more fat loss and greater muscle gain that drinking soy or a carbohydrate drink. Question #2: New study suggests that the elderly should be eating more vegetables and less meat in order to maintain their muscle mass. Question #3: A new animal study suggests that low calorie or diet foods and drinks may lead to obesity.
Skeptical Puzzle (1:11:00)
This Week's Puzzle:
I sure hate this delusional person
Though hate may be a word too strong
As I learn more, my opinion does worsen
Perhaps I won't re-write this song
Micro set scams were just some of his wares
He claims he is spiritual at heart
A dozen or so of these blessings are shared
Jesus could only hope to Master their art
From his website I read, as they humbly plead
That they can lay hands and cure you of ills
Just join them and pray, for you will see one day
You've found their holy mountains and hills
For it was their king, that taught them these things
They are simply swine to this pearl thrower
A doctor, a reverend, and a knight, so he sings
But it was yoga that made him a knower
Name the person.
Last Week's puzzle:
What do you call a snake handler who appears between a stinger and a shooter?
Answer: Ophiucus
Winner: Cap Sponge
Quote of the Week (1:15:00)
'To believe with certainty we must begin with doubting.'- Stanislaus I (1677-1766) a Polish king 'of some note.'
S: The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by the New England Skeptical Society in association with the James Randi Educational Foundation. For more information on this and other episodes, please visit our website at www.theskepticsguide.org. Please send us your questions, suggestions, and other feedback; you can use the "Contact Us" page on our website, or you can send us an email to info@theskepticsguide.org'. 'Theorem' is produced by Kineto and is used with permission.
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