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== Introduction ==
== Introduction ==
''You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.''
''You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.''
== News Items <small>()</small> ==


=== UFO News <small>()</small> ===
== News Items ==
=== UFO News <small>(2:01)</small> ===
* Former Arizona governor says he saw Phoenix lights and they were UFO's<br/>www.ufodigest.com/news/0307/governor.html<br/>www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/tech/2007/03/22/tuchman.ufo.phoenix.lights.ktvk<br/><br/>French release UFO database<br/>popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2007/03/theyre_out_ther.html<br/><br/>
* Former Arizona governor says he saw Phoenix lights and they were UFO's<br/>www.ufodigest.com/news/0307/governor.html<br/>www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/tech/2007/03/22/tuchman.ufo.phoenix.lights.ktvk<br/><br/>French release UFO database<br/>popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2007/03/theyre_out_ther.html<br/><br/>


=== Houdini to be Exhumed <small>()</small> ===
=== Houdini to be Exhumed <small>(9:14)</small> ===
* www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/03/22/houdini.murder.ap/index.html<br/>
* www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/03/22/houdini.murder.ap/index.html<br/>


=== Buddha Boy Returns <small>()</small> ===
=== Buddha Boy Returns <small>(12:06)</small> ===
* Wants to be buried alive.<br/>www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=140325&version=1&template_id=44&parent_id=24<br/>
* Wants to be buried alive.<br/>www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=140325&version=1&template_id=44&parent_id=24<br/>
== Questions and E-mails <small>()</small> ==


=== PETA <small>()</small> ===
== Questions and E-mails ==
=== PETA <small>(16:04)</small> ===
<blockquote>After listening to #87, i have two issues:<br/>1. painting all animal right activests with a single brush<br/>2. PETA wants all pets released<br/><br/>as for #1, i am a longtime vegan and animal rights activist, and i completely against the ALF and whatever organization that guy is from who wants to euthanize the bear cub. He speaks only for himself and maybe his organization. i can not find one mention of the name of his group. i am surprised you guys are falling into the same trap as MSM and reporting this as he represents all of the animal activists.<br/><br/>for #2, please site where you got that information from. all i can find was anti-PETA websites that make that claim and nothing to back it up. here is the FAQ i found on petas website, and look and answer #1:<br/>http://www.peta.org/about/faq-comp.asp<br/>it seems like they are more against puppy mills and cruelty to domesticated animals, and not the release of your pet dog or cat into the wild.<br/><br/>how many logical errors and falicies were created in this podcast?<br/><br/>i am writing this because i am a big fan of your show (yes, even Perry *can* be funny sometimes), but i was really dissapointed in the handling of this issue.<br/><br/>thank you,<br/>Adam G.<br/>Philadelphia, PA<br/></blockquote>
<blockquote>After listening to #87, i have two issues:<br/>1. painting all animal right activests with a single brush<br/>2. PETA wants all pets released<br/><br/>as for #1, i am a longtime vegan and animal rights activist, and i completely against the ALF and whatever organization that guy is from who wants to euthanize the bear cub. He speaks only for himself and maybe his organization. i can not find one mention of the name of his group. i am surprised you guys are falling into the same trap as MSM and reporting this as he represents all of the animal activists.<br/><br/>for #2, please site where you got that information from. all i can find was anti-PETA websites that make that claim and nothing to back it up. here is the FAQ i found on petas website, and look and answer #1:<br/>http://www.peta.org/about/faq-comp.asp<br/>it seems like they are more against puppy mills and cruelty to domesticated animals, and not the release of your pet dog or cat into the wild.<br/><br/>how many logical errors and falicies were created in this podcast?<br/><br/>i am writing this because i am a big fan of your show (yes, even Perry *can* be funny sometimes), but i was really dissapointed in the handling of this issue.<br/><br/>thank you,<br/>Adam G.<br/>Philadelphia, PA<br/></blockquote>


=== GM Food <small>()</small> ===
=== GM Food <small>(28:32)</small> ===
<blockquote>Hello,<br/> I have been trying to do research into the big debate over the safety of GM foods. In my research I have failed to find many reliable resources that aren't motivated by political agendas. Are some of them safe? Most of them safe? Are there many that are confirmed dangerous? If you can link or talk about any studies that test food safety with GM crops it would be greatly appreciate it!<br/><br/>Love your show,<br/><br/>Sean Safken<br/>Denver, CO<br/></blockquote>
<blockquote>Hello,<br/> I have been trying to do research into the big debate over the safety of GM foods. In my research I have failed to find many reliable resources that aren't motivated by political agendas. Are some of them safe? Most of them safe? Are there many that are confirmed dangerous? If you can link or talk about any studies that test food safety with GM crops it would be greatly appreciate it!<br/><br/>Love your show,<br/><br/>Sean Safken<br/>Denver, CO<br/></blockquote>


=== Satanic Barcode <small>()</small> ===
=== Satanic Barcode <small>(35:13)</small> ===
<blockquote>Hi Guys,<br/><br/>Love the podcast, have been listening for a few months now and I am catching up with all the older episodes too, it help me keep sane at work in my mind numbing boring job, the quality to information is first rate plus the humour between the rouges is ace too!<br/><br/>I have a 'believer' friend at work who has been telling me all sorts of stories about conspiracies and so on, and when I heard you out line the classic red flags and ploys they employ you are describing this chap, amazing!<br/><br/>But one ting has got me wondering, he explained about the brackets on bar-codes and the middle and end brackets are 6 and there are 3 of them, you guessed 666! But I have wondered why this is as a bar code used 1 to 10 and logically the centre weighted number should be 5? However I do suspect there is a reason for this and I just don't know it yet, maybe you could throw some light on this subject?<br/><br/>Did you get the Nikon D80 in the end, as you mentioned you were shopping for one? I've just got into photography and have this model too, not captured any ghosts yet!<br/><br/>Kind Regards Damian 'Shropshire, England'<br/><br/>PS, a big thank you to all involved in the podcast.<br/><br/>Damian Dodd<br/></blockquote>  
<blockquote>Hi Guys,<br/><br/>Love the podcast, have been listening for a few months now and I am catching up with all the older episodes too, it help me keep sane at work in my mind numbing boring job, the quality to information is first rate plus the humour between the rouges is ace too!<br/><br/>I have a 'believer' friend at work who has been telling me all sorts of stories about conspiracies and so on, and when I heard you out line the classic red flags and ploys they employ you are describing this chap, amazing!<br/><br/>But one ting has got me wondering, he explained about the brackets on bar-codes and the middle and end brackets are 6 and there are 3 of them, you guessed 666! But I have wondered why this is as a bar code used 1 to 10 and logically the centre weighted number should be 5? However I do suspect there is a reason for this and I just don't know it yet, maybe you could throw some light on this subject?<br/><br/>Did you get the Nikon D80 in the end, as you mentioned you were shopping for one? I've just got into photography and have this model too, not captured any ghosts yet!<br/><br/>Kind Regards Damian 'Shropshire, England'<br/><br/>PS, a big thank you to all involved in the podcast.<br/><br/>Damian Dodd<br/></blockquote>  


== Interview with David Seaman, DC <small>()</small> ==
== Interview with David Seaman, DC <small>(38:33)</small> ==
* Dr. Seaman is a scientific chiropractor and is critical of those in his profession who perpetuate chiropractic pseudoscience<br/>His column: www.chiroweb.com/columnist/seaman/<br/>His bio: www.chiroweb.com/columnist/seaman/bio.html<br/>
* Dr. Seaman is a scientific chiropractor and is critical of those in his profession who perpetuate chiropractic pseudoscience<br/>His column: www.chiroweb.com/columnist/seaman/<br/>His bio: www.chiroweb.com/columnist/seaman/bio.html<br/>
== Science or Fiction <small>()</small> ==
 
== Science or Fiction <small>(1:01:49)</small> ==
Question #1: In order to help relieve China's chronic food supply problems, Chinese scientists have discovered how to process panda poop into an edible fiber rich wafer.
Question #1: In order to help relieve China's chronic food supply problems, Chinese scientists have discovered how to process panda poop into an edible fiber rich wafer.
Question #2: Scientists have discovered a pair of semi-identical twins who share 75% of their DNA.
Question #2: Scientists have discovered a pair of semi-identical twins who share 75% of their DNA.
Question #3: Taiwanese officials have shut down a major highway in order to make way for a butterfly migration.
Question #3: Taiwanese officials have shut down a major highway in order to make way for a butterfly migration.
== Skeptical Puzzle <small>()</small> ==
== Skeptical Puzzle <small>(1:09:56)</small> ==
<blockquote>This Week's Puzzle<br/><br/>Take a rose<br/>Place it in lime<br/>The outcome is usually death<br/><br/>I am mired by what Doctor Griffin would say<br/>A dimmer version of a baby's last breath<br/><br/><br/>What am I describing?<br/><br/><br/>Last Week's Puzzle<br/><br/>Between us, if I raise my goblet to you, and open my heart, on the grounds of conjecture, what psuedoscientific act am I performing?<br/><br/>Answer: Tea leaf reading - tesiography<br/>Winner: Cosmic Vagabond<br/></blockquote>
<blockquote>This Week's Puzzle<br/><br/>Take a rose<br/>Place it in lime<br/>The outcome is usually death<br/><br/>I am mired by what Doctor Griffin would say<br/>A dimmer version of a baby's last breath<br/><br/><br/>What am I describing?<br/><br/><br/>Last Week's Puzzle<br/><br/>Between us, if I raise my goblet to you, and open my heart, on the grounds of conjecture, what psuedoscientific act am I performing?<br/><br/>Answer: Tea leaf reading - tesiography<br/>Winner: Cosmic Vagabond<br/></blockquote>
== Quote of the Week <small>()</small> ==
== Quote of the Week <small>(1:11:49)</small> ==
<blockquote>'Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it.'-Andre Gide, French author and critic (1869-1951).</blockquote>
<blockquote>'Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it.'-Andre Gide, French author and critic (1869-1951).</blockquote>


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SGU Episode 88
March 28th 2007
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SGU 87                      SGU 89

Skeptical Rogues
S: Steven Novella

B: Bob Novella

R: Rebecca Watson

J: Jay Novella

E: Evan Bernstein

P: Perry DeAngelis

Guest

DS: David Seaman, DC

Quote of the Week

Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it.

Andre Gide, French author and critic (1869-1951)

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Show Notes
Forum Discussion


Introduction

You're listening to the Skeptics' Guide to the Universe, your escape to reality.

News Items

UFO News (2:01)

  • Former Arizona governor says he saw Phoenix lights and they were UFO's
    www.ufodigest.com/news/0307/governor.html
    www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/tech/2007/03/22/tuchman.ufo.phoenix.lights.ktvk

    French release UFO database
    popsci.typepad.com/popsci/2007/03/theyre_out_ther.html

Houdini to be Exhumed (9:14)

  • www.cnn.com/2007/LAW/03/22/houdini.murder.ap/index.html

Buddha Boy Returns (12:06)

  • Wants to be buried alive.
    www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=140325&version=1&template_id=44&parent_id=24

Questions and E-mails

PETA (16:04)

After listening to #87, i have two issues:
1. painting all animal right activests with a single brush
2. PETA wants all pets released

as for #1, i am a longtime vegan and animal rights activist, and i completely against the ALF and whatever organization that guy is from who wants to euthanize the bear cub. He speaks only for himself and maybe his organization. i can not find one mention of the name of his group. i am surprised you guys are falling into the same trap as MSM and reporting this as he represents all of the animal activists.

for #2, please site where you got that information from. all i can find was anti-PETA websites that make that claim and nothing to back it up. here is the FAQ i found on petas website, and look and answer #1:
http://www.peta.org/about/faq-comp.asp
it seems like they are more against puppy mills and cruelty to domesticated animals, and not the release of your pet dog or cat into the wild.

how many logical errors and falicies were created in this podcast?

i am writing this because i am a big fan of your show (yes, even Perry *can* be funny sometimes), but i was really dissapointed in the handling of this issue.

thank you,
Adam G.
Philadelphia, PA

GM Food (28:32)

Hello,
I have been trying to do research into the big debate over the safety of GM foods. In my research I have failed to find many reliable resources that aren't motivated by political agendas. Are some of them safe? Most of them safe? Are there many that are confirmed dangerous? If you can link or talk about any studies that test food safety with GM crops it would be greatly appreciate it!

Love your show,

Sean Safken
Denver, CO

Satanic Barcode (35:13)

Hi Guys,

Love the podcast, have been listening for a few months now and I am catching up with all the older episodes too, it help me keep sane at work in my mind numbing boring job, the quality to information is first rate plus the humour between the rouges is ace too!

I have a 'believer' friend at work who has been telling me all sorts of stories about conspiracies and so on, and when I heard you out line the classic red flags and ploys they employ you are describing this chap, amazing!

But one ting has got me wondering, he explained about the brackets on bar-codes and the middle and end brackets are 6 and there are 3 of them, you guessed 666! But I have wondered why this is as a bar code used 1 to 10 and logically the centre weighted number should be 5? However I do suspect there is a reason for this and I just don't know it yet, maybe you could throw some light on this subject?

Did you get the Nikon D80 in the end, as you mentioned you were shopping for one? I've just got into photography and have this model too, not captured any ghosts yet!

Kind Regards Damian 'Shropshire, England'

PS, a big thank you to all involved in the podcast.

Damian Dodd

Interview with David Seaman, DC (38:33)

  • Dr. Seaman is a scientific chiropractor and is critical of those in his profession who perpetuate chiropractic pseudoscience
    His column: www.chiroweb.com/columnist/seaman/
    His bio: www.chiroweb.com/columnist/seaman/bio.html

Science or Fiction (1:01:49)

Question #1: In order to help relieve China's chronic food supply problems, Chinese scientists have discovered how to process panda poop into an edible fiber rich wafer. Question #2: Scientists have discovered a pair of semi-identical twins who share 75% of their DNA. Question #3: Taiwanese officials have shut down a major highway in order to make way for a butterfly migration.

Skeptical Puzzle (1:09:56)

This Week's Puzzle

Take a rose
Place it in lime
The outcome is usually death

I am mired by what Doctor Griffin would say
A dimmer version of a baby's last breath


What am I describing?


Last Week's Puzzle

Between us, if I raise my goblet to you, and open my heart, on the grounds of conjecture, what psuedoscientific act am I performing?

Answer: Tea leaf reading - tesiography
Winner: Cosmic Vagabond

Quote of the Week (1:11:49)

'Believe those who are seeking the truth; doubt those who find it.'-Andre Gide, French author and critic (1869-1951).

S: The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe is produced by the New England Skeptical Society in association with the James Randi Educational Foundation. For more information on this and other episodes, please visit our website at www.theskepticsguide.org. Please send us your questions, suggestions, and other feedback; you can use the "Contact Us" page on our website, or you can send us an email to info@theskepticsguide.org'. 'Theorem' is produced by Kineto and is used with permission.

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