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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:58:10Z</updated>

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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anesthetic anesthetic]. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/7355523.stm news reports]) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M96V80F_P8o video] interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10986765?ordinalpos=1&amp;amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum &amp;quot;hypnoanesthesia&amp;quot;] and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as [http://journals.lww.com/rapm/Abstract/2004/11000/Clinical_Hypnosis_Modulates_Functional_Magnetic.8.aspx November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine] talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FMRI] and they found significant reduction in pain perception using FRMI-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term &amp;quot;hypnoanesthesia&amp;quot; which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:56:16Z</updated>

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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/7355523.stm news reports]) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M96V80F_P8o video] interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10986765?ordinalpos=1&amp;amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum &amp;quot;hypnoanesthesia&amp;quot;] and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as [http://journals.lww.com/rapm/Abstract/2004/11000/Clinical_Hypnosis_Modulates_Functional_Magnetic.8.aspx November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine] talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FMRI] and they found significant reduction in pain perception using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FRMI]-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10986765?ordinalpos=1&amp;amp;itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum &amp;quot;hypnoanesthesia&amp;quot;] which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:52:22Z</updated>

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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/7355523.stm news reports]) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M96V80F_P8o video] interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as [http://journals.lww.com/rapm/Abstract/2004/11000/Clinical_Hypnosis_Modulates_Functional_Magnetic.8.aspx November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine] talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FMRI] and they found significant reduction in pain perception using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FRMI]-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:50:44Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written [http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/sussex/7355523.stm reports] and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M96V80F_P8o video] interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as [http://journals.lww.com/rapm/Abstract/2004/11000/Clinical_Hypnosis_Modulates_Functional_Magnetic.8.aspx November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine] talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FMRI] and they found significant reduction in pain perception using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FRMI]-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:47:42Z</updated>

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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M96V80F_P8o video] interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as [http://journals.lww.com/rapm/Abstract/2004/11000/Clinical_Hypnosis_Modulates_Functional_Magnetic.8.aspx November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine] talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FMRI] and they found significant reduction in pain perception using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FRMI]-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:35:09Z</updated>

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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and video interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as [http://journals.lww.com/rapm/Abstract/2004/11000/Clinical_Hypnosis_Modulates_Functional_Magnetic.8.aspx November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine] talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FMRI] and they found significant reduction in pain perception using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FRMI]-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3582</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:30:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and video interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FMRI] and they found significant reduction in pain perception using [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Functional_magnetic_resonance_imaging FRMI]-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:26:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and video interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during FMRI and they found significant reduction in pain perception using FRMI-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:25:27Z</updated>

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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and video interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show that, that hypnosis can have an impact in pain perception such as November/December 2004 Issue of Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during FMRI and they found significant reduction in pain perception using FRMI-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience, and it, a huge component of pain is attention, are you attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate, are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate, it&#039;s probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; which really is a form of just, just very intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain, make, make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that&#039;s what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation, you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3579</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T10:09:34Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you consider that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and video interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show hypnosis can have an impact of pain such as November/December 2004 issue of regional pain medicine talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during FMRI and they found significant reduction in pain perception by using FRMI-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least in these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience and it a huge component of pain is attention are  attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term hypno-anesthesia which really is just a form of intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that is what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3578</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T09:20:53Z</updated>

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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: This is the first I, I ever heard that you could hypnotize yourself. Is that possible?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Well somebody has to hold the watch for you but yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(Laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Or spin the disk with the swirly thing.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Well when you  that hypnotism would be a certain form of meditation then it would be possible-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...I suppose to &amp;quot;hypnotize yourself&amp;quot; (and I&#039;m using the little air quotes there.) But whether or not you could do it to the point where whether or not you could relax yourself to the point where you wouldn&#039;t mind major surgery is another point all together and I for one am calling shenanigins!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Well yeah I don&#039;t know how they&#039;ve I don&#039;t know how this claim can be validated how do we know that this person did not have any other medication any medication at all. I don&#039;t think there is any way really to know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Well this is the report from the surgeon, who is David Llewellyn-Clark. And there are both written reports and video interviews of him on the internet. He say&#039;s that he underwent no anesthesia and that he described the surgery you know they filleted open his wrist and thumb-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: With a 4 inch cut!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and he actually had to use a chisel and saw you know to work on the bone. That would ordinarily be a incredibly painful procedure. He also went out of his way to point out that they were monitoring his respiratory rate and his blood pressure and his pulse rate and they correctly said that if somebody if he were just you know grinning and bearing the pain through incredible self discipline his vital signs would go up and that&#039;s generally true that&#039;s correct. So if that report is correct he was actually not feeling significant pain during the procedure but the big question mark in this whole affair is whether or not he received any local anesthesia. That actually is published protocols for so called &amp;quot;hypno-anesthesia&amp;quot; and it involves giving local anesthesia and not a single report that I could find anywhere specifically addressed the question one way or the other neither did the doctor mention it on the interview itself.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And this case reminds me of back in the 70&#039;s the same sort of thing happened with acupuncture where there were reports coming out of China saying that these major surgeries were being performed with just acupuncture but then it was later discovered that it was actually a cocktail of of drugs-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (agrees)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: ...plus a local anesthetic that was quite easily fooling reporters into believing that it was just acupuncture. So that&#039;s what sprung to mind as soon as I heard this, set the little skeptical detector off.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah I think a doctor from Yale discovered it, went and took a trip to China to find out what was going on and found out the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So if we look at the possible outcomes of this with the possibilities of what&#039;s happening here, either it&#039;s true, the guy was able to do it, he&#039;s completely lying, the patient was on medication before he went or...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Or if he was getting local anesthesia and that they just neglected to mention that little detail in all of the news reporting. Which I think is by far and away the most likely scenario.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: I, I vote for that.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: But also I think that it&#039;s interesting to point out that in my research I was a little surprised to find previous studies that clearly that seem to clearly show hypnosis can have an impact of pain such as November/December 2004 issue of regional pain medicine talked about a study where volunteers were hypnotized and studied during FMRI and they found significant reduction in pain perception by using FRMI-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yes&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: ...and another and another study and other similar studies. I was surprised that pain perception could be reduced by hypnosis in a clinical setting and showed you know clearly at least in these preliminary studies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I&#039;m not surprised by that at all. Pain is a completely subjective experience and it a huge component of pain is attention are  attending to the pain? and another component of it is just your emotional sate are you anxious or relaxed? So yes if you meditate probably not accurate to call it hypnosis in that it confuses it with stage hypnosis which is a completely different thing but they do use the term hypno-anesthesia which really is just a form of intense meditation where you draw your attention away from whatever the source of the pain is and you relax yourself-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: ...and that absolutely can reduce your perception and emotional response to the pain however what it will not do is make you completely numb to the pain make you have zero pain and that&#039;s what they were reporting in this case and that is what I just don&#039;t buy unless this guy is a very unusual situation you know that has not been reported previously.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T08:26:24Z</updated>

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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3574</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T08:25:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the, the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T08:23:55Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the the bones in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3572"/>
		<updated>2012-10-17T08:22:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bone in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by (according to the news reports) without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3571"/>
		<updated>2012-10-17T08:11:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5. Tonight&#039;s topic, a hypnotist undergoes very painful surgery without any anesthetic. British hypnotist Alex Lenkei underwent hand surgery which involved actually chipping away part of the bone, in his, in the bone in his wrist and his thumb, and he did so by according to news reports without any anesthesia simply by hypnotizing himself just before the procedure.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3570"/>
		<updated>2012-10-17T07:59:47Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3569</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3569"/>
		<updated>2012-10-17T07:56:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3568"/>
		<updated>2012-10-17T07:52:15Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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== Surgery under hypnosis. == &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>5X5 Episode 16</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_16&amp;diff=3567"/>
		<updated>2012-10-17T07:50:47Z</updated>

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		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
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	<entry>
		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_10&amp;diff=3563</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-17T07:36:24Z</updated>

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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5 and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I thought about that too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result is, that it&#039;s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If this, I know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;].  I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But, it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what that&#039;s about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: It&#039;s something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes, you know, fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it was aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something that&#039;s really happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, there’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that&#039;s what we would always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of that hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think probably wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who has used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed to failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other day; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who is insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_10&amp;diff=3562</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_10&amp;diff=3562"/>
		<updated>2012-10-17T07:33:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5 and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I thought about that too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result is, that it&#039;s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If this, I know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;].  I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But, it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what that&#039;s about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: It&#039;s something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes, you know, fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it was aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something that&#039;s really happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, there’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that&#039;s what we would always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of that hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think probably wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who has used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed to failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other day; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who is insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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S: This is the SGU 5x5 and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I thought about that too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result is, that it&#039;s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If this, I know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;].  I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But, it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what that&#039;s about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: It&#039;s something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
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S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes, you know, fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it was aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something that&#039;s really happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, there’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that&#039;s what we would always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of that hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think probably wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who has used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed to failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other day; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who is insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
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E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
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J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5 and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I thought about that too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result is, that it&#039;s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If this, I know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;].  I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But, it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what that&#039;s about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: It&#039;s something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes, you know, fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it was aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something that&#039;s really happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, there’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that&#039;s what we would always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of that hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think probably wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who has used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed to failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other day; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who is insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5 and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I thought about that too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result is, that it&#039;s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If this, I know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;].  I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But, it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what that&#039;s about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: It&#039;s something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes, you know, fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it was aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something that&#039;s really happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, there’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that&#039;s what we would always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of that hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think probably wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who has used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed to failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other day; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who is insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5 and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I thought about that too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result is, that it&#039;s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If this, I know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;].  I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But, it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what that&#039;s about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: It&#039;s something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5 and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I thought about that too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result is, that it&#039;s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If this, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;].  I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But, it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what that&#039;s about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: It&#039;s something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I thought about that too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result is, that it&#039;s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If this, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;].  I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But, it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what that&#039;s about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: It&#039;s something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people for an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I though about this too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result of this is, there’s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If there’s eh, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;]. I... I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what this is about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… about these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for a future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I though about this too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result of this is, there’s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If there’s eh, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;]. I... I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what this is about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… about these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there, that he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I though about this too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result of this is, there’s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If there’s eh, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;]. I... I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what this is about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… about these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they&#039;re all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there that, he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I though about this too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result of this is, there’s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If there’s eh, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;]. I... I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what this is about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… about these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point to this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they are all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there that, he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I though about this too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result of this is, there’s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If there’s eh, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;]. I... I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what this is about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… about these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point of this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they are all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there that, he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I though about this too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result of this is, there’s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If there’s eh, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;]. I... I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what this is about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… about these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 10</title>
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==Spielberg to Create Online Paranormal Community== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So the point of this is that, people can just post up videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they are all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there that, he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Well, I though about this too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result of this is, there’s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: If there’s eh, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;]. I... I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what this is about?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Yes. About… about these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
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S: this is the SGU 5x5, and tonight’s topic is [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Spielberg Steven Spielberg] back in the paranormal news. According to [http://techcrunch.com/ techcrunch.com] Stephen Spielberg is planning a new online social network dedicated to ghosts and UFOs.&lt;br /&gt;
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R: It’s gonna be called Myspace between Myears.&lt;br /&gt;
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B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
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E: I heard it was gonna be Myghost.&lt;br /&gt;
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R: Thank you, I’ll be here all week!&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Myghost.com...?&lt;br /&gt;
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J: So the point of this is that, people can just post videos, and stories, and blogs about paranormal experience?&lt;br /&gt;
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R: Yeah, I mean, but the crazy thing is though, you know, we already have [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace Myspace], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friendster Friendster], and [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook], and they are all overrun with paranormal groups. Go to Myspace search in the groups for paranormal, you’ll get, like 900 different groups on the paranormal. This is doomed to be completely useless.&lt;br /&gt;
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E: But there’s a the-, there is a prevailing unofficial theory out there that, he’s perhaps using this as some sort of launch for future project, something to go viral, some place to collect a lot of people an upcoming project or movie, television series, whatever it might be.&lt;br /&gt;
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J: Well, I though about this too Ev. But, you know, so what? The end result of this is, there’s still more propagation of this crap. You know?&lt;br /&gt;
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E: Oh yeah.&lt;br /&gt;
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S: It’s just another location to spread anecdotes, you know, about personal alleged paranormal experiences. And the only reason why this might have any legs is because the name Steven Spielberg is attached to it.&lt;br /&gt;
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B: Right.&lt;br /&gt;
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S: If there’s eh, you know, I think if this were just another network it would probably, probably wouldn’t do anything. And Steven Spielberg does have a long history of fascination with ghosts and… aliens.&lt;br /&gt;
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B: That’s true. I didn’t really think of that, until I saw the list of all his movies together. A lot of his movies. And then it really hit me. You got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Encounters_of_the_Third_Kind &#039;&#039;Close Encounters of the Third Kind&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poltergeist_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Poltergeist&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.T._the_Extra-Terrestrial &#039;&#039;E.T.&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casper_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Casper&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Men_in_Black_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Men in Black&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Haunting_%281999_film%29 &#039;&#039;The Haunting&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_the_Worlds_%282005_film%29 &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;]. I... I guess he had various levels of involvement in, in these, all these different movies besides just being a director for the earlier ones. But it really hit home that yeah, he really does have a real fascination with this stuff. And then he’s got [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_%28film%29#Films &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039;], a movie coming out in 2009. Does anyone know what this is about?&lt;br /&gt;
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J: Yes. About… about these interstellar people.&lt;br /&gt;
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B: Ah-ha!&lt;br /&gt;
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R: It’s good!&lt;br /&gt;
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E: Something about, something happening between the stars, I don’t know.&lt;br /&gt;
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J: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
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R: &#039;&#039;Interstellar&#039;&#039; is about a physicist and his theories of gravity fields, wormholes, and several hypotheses that Albert Einstein was never able to prove.&lt;br /&gt;
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S: And in addition to his movies, I mean this is where Spielberg mixes fact and fiction, he also produced [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taken_%28TV_miniseries%29 &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;] for the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syfy Science Fiction Channel].&lt;br /&gt;
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B: Yeah&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Remember that?&lt;br /&gt;
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(everyone agreeing)&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Which was an overview of the… claims of UFO believers, including alien abductions, and crashed saucers, and big time on the UFO, big government conspiracy cover-up. And this was, I guess, pseudo-documentary. And it was interesting that it aired on the Science Fiction Channel. You might argue that that’s where it belongs. But it definitely was presented not as pure fiction, but as based upon something actually happening.&lt;br /&gt;
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E: Yeah. There’s also a widely reported story that Spielberg in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jefferson,_Texas Jefferson, Texas], some 20 years ago roughly, has stayed in a haunted hotel, and witnessed a ghost and was so frighted by it that he took him, and his whole staff, and his crew, and they left the hotel that night, as they were so afraid of what happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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B: Isn’t that funny. Because that what we would... we always say when we watch those movies and how the people react unrealistically, you say to yourself: well, just move out of this hole and, and get away. And that’s exactly what he did.&lt;br /&gt;
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R: (chuckle)&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Yeah, if the walls really were &#039;&#039;bleeding&#039;&#039; then… most people I think wouldn’t stick around to see what else happened.&lt;br /&gt;
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J: So let me ask you guys, does this knock down Spielberg a peg? In your opinion overall?&lt;br /&gt;
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R: A peg or two.&lt;br /&gt;
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E: I think it reinforces what I’ve, what I’ve kind of always thought of Steven Spielberg, like Steve said about the &#039;&#039;Taken&#039;&#039;, and really ever since that came out, I think it just reinforces the fact that, you know, this part of him is … you know, not all there.&lt;br /&gt;
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R: Yeah, I mean well, he’s a creative-&lt;br /&gt;
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S: I love his movies!&lt;br /&gt;
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R: he’s a creative person who’s used that to good extent thus far but… trying to make the leap online, I mean, if he even... if he does actually follow through on it I’m pretty sure that it’s doomed for failure. Because what you’re gonnna get is a bunch of, well, you know, people that you might found on Myspace only worse. Talking about: oh I saw a ghost the other way; no seriously dude, I totally did. You know, nobody is gonna tune into that, sorry. Go back to making movies.&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Yeah, I mean, Spielberg appears to be just another true believer who’s insufficiently skeptical. Unfortunately this true believer happens to have millions of dollars and he knows how to use a camera. &lt;br /&gt;
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E: You know, he’s done some pretty good jobs with other, like world war two movies, [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saving_Private_Ryan &#039;&#039;Saving Private Ryan&#039;&#039;], [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shindler%27s_List &#039;&#039;Shindler’s List&#039;&#039;], and of course [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;1941&#039;&#039;].&lt;br /&gt;
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B: (laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
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J: You know, once again, I… I hate to know details like this about people that I like or admire in the movies or whatever, because-&lt;br /&gt;
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E: He’s friends with [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Cruise Tom Cruise], Jay.&lt;br /&gt;
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J: Is he really?&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Is that right?&lt;br /&gt;
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E: Oh yeah, they’ve… he’s acted in few of his movies: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minority_Report_%28film%29 &#039;&#039;Minority Report&#039;&#039;], &#039;&#039;War of the Worlds&#039;&#039;.&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Sometimes it’s just better to separate the art from the artist.&lt;br /&gt;
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E: Hmm.&lt;br /&gt;
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R: Agreed!&lt;br /&gt;
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|episode    = 52&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Jan 6 2009&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Atlantis &lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Myths &amp;amp; Misconceptions&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Logic &amp;amp; Philosophy&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
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|episode    = 45&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Nov 11 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Chi and other forms of vitalism &lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Energy Healing&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 19&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = May 11 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = The Science of Science Fiction Movies&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Entertainment&lt;br /&gt;
|category2 = General Science&lt;br /&gt;
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|status     = incomplete&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 15&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Apr 13 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Examining a fossilized snake - with legs.&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Nature &amp;amp; Evolution&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Creationism &amp;amp; ID&lt;br /&gt;
|category3  = General Science&lt;br /&gt;
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|date       = Apr 6 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Nomophobia - the fear of being out of cell phone range.&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Science &amp;amp; Medicine&lt;br /&gt;
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|date       = Mar 30 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Man convicted of molestation claims he was raped by Bigfoot &lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Cryptozoology&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Legal Issues &amp;amp; Regulations&lt;br /&gt;
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|episode    = 12&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Mar 23 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Faith-healing cult leads to child death from medical neglect&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Alternative Medicine&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Energy Healing&lt;br /&gt;
|category3  = Religion &amp;amp; Faith&lt;br /&gt;
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|date       = Mar 16 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = The Rogues discuss an art project to give the city of Portland, Oregon acupuncture&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Alternative Medicine&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Energy Healing&lt;br /&gt;
|category3  = Entertainment&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 10&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Mar 9 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Steven Spielberg to create new paranormal online community&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Paranormal&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Entertainment&lt;br /&gt;
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|episode    = 9&lt;br /&gt;
|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Mar 2 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = An Emmy award winning actress and her 911 conspiracy theory&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Conspiracy Theories&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Entertainment&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
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|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Feb 23 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Cryptozoology - Hunting for the Thunderbird&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Cryptozoology&lt;br /&gt;
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|-&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 7&lt;br /&gt;
|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Feb 17 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Proposed center for exorcism in Poland &lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Ghosts &amp;amp; Demons&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Religion &amp;amp; Faith&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 6&lt;br /&gt;
|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Feb 11 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Dr. Harris&#039;s Pain Relief Snake Oil Infomercial &lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Cons, Scams &amp;amp; Hoaxes&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Alternative Medicine&lt;br /&gt;
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|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 5&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Feb 3 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Pope Benedict XVI takes on science&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Religion &amp;amp; Faith&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 4&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Jan 28 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Do celebrity deaths come in threes? The rogues take on numerology&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Myths &amp;amp; Misconceptions&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Paranormal&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 3&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Jan 21 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Multilevel Marketing and Pyramid Schemes&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Cons, Scams &amp;amp; Hoaxes&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 2&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Jan 13 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = Ghost Photographs&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Paranormal&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Ghosts &amp;amp; Demons&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 list entry&lt;br /&gt;
|status     = verified&lt;br /&gt;
|episode    = 1&lt;br /&gt;
|date       = Jan 6 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|contents   = The National Health Service of the UK plans to regulate alternative medicine&lt;br /&gt;
|category1  = Alternative Medicine&lt;br /&gt;
|category2  = Pseudoscience&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_9&amp;diff=3441</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 9</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_9&amp;diff=3441"/>
		<updated>2012-10-16T09:27:53Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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|verified       = y&lt;br /&gt;
|episodeID      = 5X5 Episode 9              &amp;lt;!-- episode name --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Contents       =  Emmy Winning Actress and 9-11   &lt;br /&gt;
|episodeDate    = 2&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;nd&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; March 2008   &amp;lt;!-- broadcast date --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|rebecca        = y                            &amp;lt;!-- if absent, delete --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|bob            = y                            &amp;lt;!-- if absent, delete --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|evan           = y                            &amp;lt;!-- if absent, delete --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|guest1        = ML: Mike Lacelle&lt;br /&gt;
|downloadLink   = http://media.libsyn.com/media/sgu5x5/SGU5x52008-03-02.mp3&lt;br /&gt;
|notesLink      = http://www.theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcastinfo.aspx?mid=2&amp;amp;pid=9&lt;br /&gt;
|forumLink      = http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,8980.msg194205.html#msg194205&lt;br /&gt;
|}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Emmy Winning Actress and 9-11== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5, Mike Lacelle is sitting in for Jay Novella tonight. Tonight’s issue is actress [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Cotillard Marion Cotillard], who has recently won the Oscar for best actress, for her portrayal of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89dith_Piaf Édith Piaf] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Vie_en_rose_%28film%29 La Vie en rose], stunned Hollywood by saying something stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Oh my god!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (laughter) This has never happened before. We were shocked!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Never! Not since [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Nelson Willie Nelson].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: She has essentially endorsed 9-11 conspiracy theories by calling into question the collapse of the World Trade Center. She said, and I quote, &amp;quot;We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes, are they burned? They was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burnt for 24 hours. It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there, in New York, in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed.&amp;quot; Well, there you go!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: How can you argue with that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: That’s right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s brilliant. Clearly she’s an expert on the case. Case dismissed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: She went, she went to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_O%27Donnell Rosie O&#039;Donnell] school of engineering, all about buildings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Okay, there is so many problems with what she said. I’d say there’s at least like one factually incorrect thing in every sentence. First of all, we see other towers the same kind being hit by flames? Where? Go on, name one. Anyone?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Of the same kind is the key there. I mean with the same kind of construction as the towers? I don’t think so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Right. Now, she brings up the tower in Spain, which she’s referring to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Tower_%28Madrid%29 Windsor building], which was a building that was on fire back in 2005. Completely different building, like not at all like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center World Trade Center]. It was 32 floors compared to a hundred and some. It was steel reinforced concrete, as opposed to being steel frame. And the steel inside the Windsor building did suffer a complete structural collapse. The only thing that was left was the concrete. She’s an actress though, I mean ... why are we putting stock in what she says? It’s kind of depressing. I’m certainly not saying that &#039;&#039;we’re&#039;&#039; putting stock in it, but it depresses me that this is like, big news. Just shut up and act!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: It gets worse though. She said that the buildings were &amp;quot;a money-sucker because they were finished, it seems to me, by 1973, and to re-cable all that, to bring it up-to-date all the technology and everything, it was a lot more expensive, that work, than destroying it.&amp;quot; So that’s kind of her take on it, that it was old and outmoded and it would have been expensive to update it, so we just concocted this whole thing. Well, I think that the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloseum Colloseum] in Rome needs re-cabling as well...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: let’s just fly the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_shuttle Space shuttle] in it, and be done with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I don’t think we, we don’t keep buildings for more than 30 years, I mean, come on!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Aghh, God!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And I’m picturing like that guy from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_%28game%29 Monopoly] with the money bags, like that’s what I’m picturing running away from the World Trade Center: ha-ha-ha suckers! Money everywhere!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Now, to put things into a little bit of perspective, she also called into question the moon landings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: She doesn’t think that America actually landed on the moon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ML: Her attorney actually recently made a statement saying that her remarks were taken out of context. I watched the interview and, where she makes the comments, and just before she start talking about 9-11 she says, well she says: &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;J&#039;ai tendance à être plutôt souvent de l&#039;avis de la théorie du complot&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; which is her admitting that she has a tendency to accept conspiracy theories. So you know, it’s pretty hard to take a statement like that out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: So she placed it into context for us. Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah. Unless she said everything I’m about to say is a complete and utter stupid lie, there’s really no taking it out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Right, right. Now I was interested in this because my memory was that one of the first 9-11 conspiracy books was actually written by a French author, and that was the book [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11:_The_Big_Lie &#039;&#039;Horrifying Fraud&#039;&#039;] by... that book was by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Meyssan Thierry Meyssan]. And that was like right in 2002, that was very soon after 9-11. My recollection is that was when… that was the first I heard of the whole 9-11 conspiracy thing. So it really, the 9-11 conspiracy theorists got their start in France. I also found that there was a French politician who is currently a minister in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Sarkozy President Sarkozy&#039;s] government and this is the French Housing Minister [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Boutin Christine Boutin] also said very similar comments about 9-11 and interestingly also called into question the moon landings. Using almost the exact same terms as the actress. So there seems to be... maybe they’re reading the same websites.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: So what do we have here Steve? Do we have like these people’s brain are hardwired a certain way to just fall in and believe these conspiracy theories whole sale?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: One can only speculate. We do see people who believe in one conspiracy tending to believe in many conspiracies. There definitely is a mindset at work here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5outro}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 Navigation}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{5X5 categories&lt;br /&gt;
|Conspiracy Theories  = y&lt;br /&gt;
|Entertainment  = y&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- keywords:  conspiracy, entertainment --&amp;gt;&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_9&amp;diff=3440</id>
		<title>5X5 Episode 9</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=5X5_Episode_9&amp;diff=3440"/>
		<updated>2012-10-16T09:25:20Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;hr /&gt;
&lt;div&gt;{{Template:5X5 infobox&lt;br /&gt;
|verified       = y&lt;br /&gt;
|episodeID      = 5X5 Episode 9              &amp;lt;!-- episode name --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|Contents       =  Emmy Winning Actress and 9-11   &lt;br /&gt;
|episodeDate    = 2&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;nd&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; March 2008   &amp;lt;!-- broadcast date --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|rebecca        = y                            &amp;lt;!-- if absent, delete --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|bob            = y                            &amp;lt;!-- if absent, delete --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|evan           = y                            &amp;lt;!-- if absent, delete --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|guest1        = ML: Mike Lacelle&lt;br /&gt;
|downloadLink   = http://media.libsyn.com/media/sgu5x5/SGU5x52008-03-02.mp3&lt;br /&gt;
|notesLink      = http://www.theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcastinfo.aspx?mid=2&amp;amp;pid=9&lt;br /&gt;
|forumLink      = http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,8980.msg194205.html#msg194205&lt;br /&gt;
|}}&lt;br /&gt;
==Emmy Winning Actress and 9-11== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5, Mike Lacelle is sitting in for Jay Novella tonight. Tonight’s issue is actress [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Cotillard Marion Cotillard], who has recently won the Oscar for best actress, for her portrayal of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89dith_Piaf Édith Piaf] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Vie_en_rose_%28film%29 La Vie en rose], stunned Hollywood by saying something stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Oh my god!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (laughter) This has never happened before. We were shocked!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Never! Not since [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Nelson Willie Nelson].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: She has essentially endorsed 9-11 conspiracy theories by calling into question the collapse of the World Trade Center. She said, and I quote, &amp;quot;We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes, are they burned? They was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burnt for 24 hours. It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there, in New York, in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed.&amp;quot; Well, there you go!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: How can you argue with that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: That’s right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s brilliant. Clearly she’s an expert on the case. Case dismissed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: She went, she went to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_O%27Donnell Rosie O&#039;Donnell] school of engineering, all about buildings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Okay, there is so many problems with what she said. I’d say there’s at least like one factually incorrect thing in every sentence. First of all, we see other towers the same kind being hit by flames? Where? Go on, name one. Anyone?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Of the same kind is the key there. I mean with the same kind of construction as the towers? I don’t think so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Right. Now, she brings up the tower in Spain, which she’s referring to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Tower_%28Madrid%29 Windsor building], which was a building that was on fire back in 2005. Completely different building, like not at all like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center World Trade Center]. It was 32 floors compared to a hundred and some. It was steel reinforced concrete, as opposed to being steel frame. And the steel inside the Windsor building did suffer a complete structural collapse. The only thing that was left was the concrete. She’s an actress though, I mean ... why are we putting stock in what she says? It’s kind of depressing. I’m certainly not saying that &#039;&#039;we’re&#039;&#039; putting stock in it, but it depressed me that this is like, big news. Just shut up and act!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: It gets worse though. She said that the buildings were &amp;quot;a money-sucker because they were finished, it seems to me, by 1973, and to re-cable all that, to bring it up-to-date all the technology and everything, it was a lot more expensive, that work, than destroying it.&amp;quot; So that’s kind of her take on it, that it was old and outmoded and it would have been expensive to update it, so we just concocted this whole thing. Well, I think that the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloseum Colloseum] in Rome needs re-cabling as well...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: let’s just fly the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_shuttle Space shuttle] in it, and be done with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I don’t think we, we don’t keep buildings for more than 30 years, I mean, come on!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Aghh, God!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And I’m picturing like that guy from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_%28game%29 Monopoly] with the money bags, like that’s what I’m picturing running away from the World Trade Center: ha-ha-ha suckers! Money everywhere!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Now, to put things into a little bit of perspective, she also called into question the moon landings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: She doesn’t think that America actually landed on the moon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ML: Her attorney actually recently made a statement saying that her remarks were taken out of context. I watched the interview and, where she makes the comments, and just before she start talking about 9-11 she says, well she says: &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;J&#039;ai tendance à être plutôt souvent de l&#039;avis de la théorie du complot&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; which is her admitting that she has a tendency to accept conspiracy theories. So you know, it’s pretty hard to take a statement like that out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: So she placed it into context for us. Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah. Unless she said everything I’m about to say is a complete and utter stupid lie, there’s really no taking it out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Right, right. Now I was interested in this because my memory was that one of the first 9-11 conspiracy books was actually written by a French author, and that was the book [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11:_The_Big_Lie &#039;&#039;Horrifying Fraud&#039;&#039;] by... that book was by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Meyssan Thierry Meyssan]. And that was like right in 2002, that was very soon after 9-11. My recollection is that was when… that was the first I heard of the whole 9-11 conspiracy thing. So it really, the 9-11 conspiracy theorists got their start in France. I also found that there was a French politician who is currently a minister in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Sarkozy President Sarkozy&#039;s] government and this is the French Housing Minister [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Boutin Christine Boutin] also said very similar comments about 9-11 and interestingly also called into question the moon landings. Using almost the exact same terms as the actress. So there seems to be... maybe they’re reading the same websites.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: So what do we have here Steve? Do we have like these people’s brain are hardwired a certain way to just fall in and believe these conspiracy theories whole sale?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: One can only speculate. We do see people who believe in one conspiracy tending to believe in many conspiracies. There definitely is a mindset at work here.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Emmy Winning Actress and 9-11== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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S: This is the SGU 5x5, Mike Lacelle is sitting in for Jay Novella tonight. Tonight’s issue is actress [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Cotillard Marion Cotillard], who has recently won the Oscar for best actress, for her portrayal of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89dith_Piaf Édith Piaf] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Vie_en_rose_%28film%29 La Vie en rose], stunned Hollywood by saying something stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Oh my god!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (laughter) This has never happened before. We were shocked!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Never! Not since [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Nelson Willie Nelson].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: She has essentially endorsed 9-11 conspiracy theories by calling into question the collapse of the World Trade Center. She said, and I quote, &amp;quot;We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes, are they burned? They was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burnt for 24 hours. It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there, in New York, in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed.&amp;quot; Well, there you go!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: How can you argue with that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: That’s right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s brilliant. Clearly she’s an expert on the case. Case dismissed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: She went, she went to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_O%27Donnell Rosie O&#039;Donnell] school of engineering, all about buildings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Okay, there’s so many problems with what she said. I’d say there’s at least like one factually incorrect thing in every sentence. First of all, we see other towers the same kind being hit by flames? Where? Go on, name one. Anyone?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Of the same kind is the key there. I mean with the same kind of construction as the towers? I don’t think so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Right. Now, she brings up the tower in Spain, which she’s referring to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Tower_%28Madrid%29 Windsor building], which was a building that was on fire back in 2005. Completely different building, like not at all like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center World Trade Center]. It was 32 floors compared to a hundred and some. It was steel reinforced concrete, as opposed to being steel frame. And the steel inside the Windsor building did suffer a complete structural collapse. The only thing that was left was the concrete. She’s an actress though, I mean ... why are we putting stock in what she says? It’s kind of depressing. I’m certainly not saying that &#039;&#039;we’re&#039;&#039; putting stock in it, but it depressed me that this is like, big news. Just shut up and act!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: It gets worse though. She said that the buildings were &amp;quot;a money-sucker because they were finished, it seems to me, by 1973, and to re-cable all that, to bring it up-to-date all the technology and everything, it was a lot more expensive, that work, than destroying it.&amp;quot; So that’s kind of her take on it, that it was old and outmoded and it would have been expensive to update it, so we just concocted this whole thing. Well, I think that the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloseum Colloseum] in Rome needs re-cabling as well...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: let’s just fly the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_shuttle Space shuttle] in it, and be done with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
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S: Yeah, I don’t think we, we don’t keep buildings for more than 30 years, I mean, come on!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Aghh, God!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And I’m picturing like that guy from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_%28game%29 Monopoly] with the money bags, like that’s what I’m picturing running away from the World Trade Center: ha-ha-ha suckers! Money everywhere!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Now, to put things into a little bit of perspective, she also called into question the moon landings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: She doesn’t think that America actually landed on the moon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ML: Her attorney actually recently made a statement saying that her remarks were taken out of context. I watched the interview and, where she makes the comments, and just before she start talking about 9-11 she says, well she says: &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;J&#039;ai tendance à être plutôt souvent de l&#039;avis de la théorie du complot&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; which is her admitting that she has a tendency to accept conspiracy theories. So you know, it’s pretty hard to take a statement like that out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: So she placed it into context for us. Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah. Unless she said everything I’m about to say is a complete and utter stupid lie, there’s really no taking it out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Right, right. Now I was interested in this because my memory was that one of the first 9-11 conspiracy books was actually written by a French author, and that was the book [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11:_The_Big_Lie &#039;&#039;Horrifying Fraud&#039;&#039;] by... that book was by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Meyssan Thierry Meyssan]. And that was like right in 2002, that was very soon after 9-11. My recollection is that was when… that was the first I heard of the whole 9-11 conspiracy thing. So it really, the 9-11 conspiracy theorists got their start in France. I also found that there was a French politician who is currently a minister in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Sarkozy President Sarkozy&#039;s] government and this is the French Housing Minister [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Boutin Christine Boutin] also said very similar comments about 9-11 and interestingly also called into question the moon landings. Using almost the exact same terms as the actress. So there seems to be... maybe they’re reading the same websites.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: So what do we have here Steve? Do we have like these people’s brain are hardwired a certain way to just fall in and believe these conspiracy theories whole sale?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: One can only speculate. We do see people who believe in one conspiracy tending to believe in many conspiracies. There definitely is a mindset at work here.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>5X5 Episode 9</title>
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		<updated>2012-10-16T09:22:56Z</updated>

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==Emmy Winning Actress and 9-11== &amp;lt;!-- Taken from show notes --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{5x5intro}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: This is the SGU 5x5, Mike Lacelle is sitting in for Jay Novella tonight. Tonight’s issue is actress [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marion_Cotillard Marion Cotillard], who has recently won the Oscar for best actress, for her portrayal of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89dith_Piaf Édith Piaf] in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Vie_en_rose_%28film%29 La Vie en rose], stunned Hollywood by saying something stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Oh my god!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: (laughter) This has never happened before. We were shocked!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Never! Not since [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willie_Nelson Willie Nelson].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: She has essentially endorsed 9-11 conspiracy theories by calling into question the collapse of the World Trade Center. She said, and I quote, &amp;quot;We see other towers of the same kind being hit by planes, are they burned? They was a tower, I believe it was in Spain, which burned for 24 hours. It never collapsed. None of these towers collapsed. And there, in New York, in a few minutes, the whole thing collapsed.&amp;quot; Well, there you go!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: How can you argue with that?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: That’s right.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: It’s brilliant. Clearly she’s an expert on the case. Case dismissed. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: She went, she went to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosie_O%27Donnell Rosie O&#039;Donnell] school of engineering, all about buildings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Okay, there’s so many problems with what she said. I’d say there’s at least like one factually incorrect thing in every sentence. First of all, we see other towers the same kind being hit by flames? Where? Go on, name one. Anyone?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Of the same kind is the key there. I mean with the same kind of construction as the towers? I don’t think so.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Right. Now, she brings up the tower in Spain, which she’s referring to the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windsor_Tower_%28Madrid%29 Windsor building], which was a building that was on fire back in 2005. Completely different building, like not at all like the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Trade_Center World Trade Center]. It was 32 floors compared to a hundred and some. It was steel reinforced concrete, as opposed to being steel frame. And the steel inside the Windsor building did suffer a complete structural collapse. The only thing that was left was the concrete. She’s an actress though, I mean ... why are we putting stock in what she says? It’s kind of depressing. I’m certainly not saying that &#039;&#039;we’re&#039;&#039; putting stock in it, but it depressed me that this is like, big news. Just shut up and act!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: It gets worse though. She said that the buildings were &amp;quot;a money-sucker because they were finished, it seems to me, by 1973, and to re-cable all that, to bring it up-to-date all the technology and everything, it was a lot more expensive, that work, than destroying it.&amp;quot; So that’s kind of her take on it, that it was old and outmoded and it would have been expensive to update it, so we just concocted this whole thing. Well, I think that the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colloseum Colloseum] in Rome needs re-cabling as well...&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: let’s just fly the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_shuttle Space shuttle] in it, and be done with it.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Yeah, I don’t think we, we don’t keep buildings for more than 30 years, I mean, come on!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Aghh, God!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: And I’m picturing like that guy from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly_%28game%29 Monopoly] with the money bags, like that’s what I’m picturing running away from the World Trade Center: ha-ha-ha suckers! Money everywhere!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Now, to put things into a little bit of perspective, she also called into question the moon landings.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
B: Ah-ha&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: She doesn’t think that America actually landed on the moon.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
ML: Her attorney actually recently made a statement saying that her remarks were taken out of context. I watched the interview and, where she makes the comments, and just before she start talking about 9-11 she says, well she says: &amp;quot;&#039;&#039;J&#039;ai tendance à être plutôt souvent de l&#039;avis de la théorie du complot&#039;&#039;&amp;quot; which is her admitting that she has a tendency to accept conspiracy theories. So you know, it’s pretty hard to take a statement like that out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: So she placed it into context for us. Thank you!&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
(laughter)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
R: Yeah. Unless she said everything I’m about to say is a complete and utter stupid lie, there’s really no taking it out of context.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: Right, right. Now I was interested in this because my memory was that one of the first 9-11 conspiracy books was actually written by a French author, and that was the book [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11:_The_Big_Lie &#039;&#039;Horrifying Fraud&#039;&#039;] by... that book was by [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Meyssan Thierry Meyssan]. And that was like right in 2002, that was very soon after 9-11. My recollection is that was when… that was the first I heard of the whole 9-11 conspiracy thing. So it really, the 9-11 conspiracy theorists got their start in France. I also found that there was a French politician who is currently a minister in [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_Sarkozy President Sarkozy&#039;s] government and this is the French Housing Minister [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christine_Boutin Christine Boutin] also said very similar comments about 9-11 and interestingly also called into question the moon landings. Using almost the exact same terms as the actress. So there seems to be... maybe they’re reading the same websites.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
E: So what do we have here Steve? Do we have like these people’s brain are hardwired a certain way to just fall in and believe these conspiracy theories whole sale?&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
S: One can only speculate. We do see people who believe in one conspiracy tending to believe in many conspiracies. There definitely is a mindset at work here.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|jay&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= y &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|evan&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= y &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|guest1&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= PP: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Plait Phil Plait] &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|downloadLink&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= http://www.sgutranscripts.org &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|notesLink&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= http://www.sgutranscripts.org &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|forumLink&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= http://www.sgutranscripts.org &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Variable Descriptions ===&lt;br /&gt;
If the variables shown in blue boxes below are not given values, they do not appear in the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot; cell-padding=&amp;quot;1em&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! Variable&lt;br /&gt;
! Description&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!episodeID&lt;br /&gt;
|Use &amp;quot;5X5 Episode&amp;quot; plus the episode number&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Contents&lt;br /&gt;
|Title or topic of episode taken from contents entry in [http://www.theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcast.aspx?mid=2 SGU 5X5 archive]&lt;br /&gt;
Not necessarily copied verbatim, shortened to 1 or 2 lines where necessary&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!episodeDate&lt;br /&gt;
|Date of broadcast, as used in show notes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |verified&lt;br /&gt;
|Indicates whether the page has been proof-read and verified.&lt;br /&gt;
Do not add a value for this variable unless the transcription has been verified by someone other than the original transcriber &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |previous&lt;br /&gt;
|Number of previous episode for link&lt;br /&gt;
Not required. If variable omitted, automatically generates link to previous episode, whether page exists or not &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |next&lt;br /&gt;
|Number of next episode for link&lt;br /&gt;
Not required. If variable omitted, automatically generates link to next episode, whether page exists or not&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |rebecca, bob, jay &amp;amp; evan&lt;br /&gt;
|Key for transcription, if rogue is absent, remove the appropriate variable&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |guest1&lt;br /&gt;
|Key for transcription, add initials used for guest&#039;s speech in transcription and their name. Where possible, add a Wikipedia link.&lt;br /&gt;
If no guests, remove variable&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!downloadLink&lt;br /&gt;
|Link to podcast download, taken from show notes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!notesLink&lt;br /&gt;
|Link to show notes page&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!forumLink&lt;br /&gt;
|Link to episode discussion page on [http://sguforums.com/index.php?board=1.0 SGUforums.com]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
		<id>https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=Help:5X5_infobox&amp;diff=3430</id>
		<title>Help:5X5 infobox</title>
		<link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="https://www.sgutranscripts.org/w/index.php?title=Help:5X5_infobox&amp;diff=3430"/>
		<updated>2012-10-16T08:56:27Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Sirnova Wolf: &lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;This page explains how to enter variables into the &#039;5X5 infobox&#039; template to adjust it for each episode. Infoboxes for full SGU episodes are explained at [[Help:Episode infobox]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{5X5 infobox&lt;br /&gt;
|episodeID      = 5X5 Episode 2&lt;br /&gt;
|Contents       = Ghost Photographs&lt;br /&gt;
|verified       = y&lt;br /&gt;
|episodeDate    = 13&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; January 2008&lt;br /&gt;
|previous       = 1&lt;br /&gt;
|next           = 3&lt;br /&gt;
|rebecca        = y&lt;br /&gt;
|bob            = y&lt;br /&gt;
|jay            = y&lt;br /&gt;
|evan           = y&lt;br /&gt;
|guest1         = PP: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Plait Phil Plait]&lt;br /&gt;
|downloadLink   = http://media.libsyn.com/media/sgu5x5/SGU5x52008-01-13.mp3&lt;br /&gt;
|notesLink      = http://www.theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcastinfo.aspx?mid=2&amp;amp;pid=2 &lt;br /&gt;
|forumLink      = http://sguforums.com/index.php/topic,7708.0.html&lt;br /&gt;
|noCategory     = y      &amp;lt;!-- stops template from adding this page to &#039;5X5 Episodes&#039; category --&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
|}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Example ===&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;{{5X5 infobox &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|episodeID&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= 5X5 Episode 2 &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|Contents&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= Ghost Photographs &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|episodeDate&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= 13&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;th&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; January 2008 &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|verified&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= y &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|previous&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= 1&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|next&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= 113&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|rebecca&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= y  &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|bob&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= y &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|jay&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= y &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|evan&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= y &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|guest1&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= PP: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Plait Phil Plait] &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|downloadLink&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= http://www.sgutranscripts.org &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|notesLink&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= http://www.sgutranscripts.org &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|forumLink&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;&amp;amp;nbsp;= http://www.sgutranscripts.org &amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;|}}&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Variable Descriptions ===&lt;br /&gt;
If the variables shown in blue boxes below are not given values, they do not appear in the infobox.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{|class=&amp;quot;wikitable&amp;quot; cell-padding=&amp;quot;1em&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
! Variable&lt;br /&gt;
! Description&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!episodeID&lt;br /&gt;
|Use &amp;quot;5X5 Episode&amp;quot; plus the episode number&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!Contents&lt;br /&gt;
|Title or topic of episode taken from contents entry in [http://www.theskepticsguide.org/archive/podcast.aspx?mid=2 SGU 5X5 archive]&lt;br /&gt;
Not necessarily copied verbatim, shortened to 1 or 2 lines where necessary&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!episodeDate&lt;br /&gt;
|Date of broadcast, as used in show notes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |verified&lt;br /&gt;
|Indicates whether the page has been proof-read and verified.&lt;br /&gt;
Do not add a value for this variable unless the transcription has been verified by someone other than the original transcriber &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |previous&lt;br /&gt;
|Number of previous episode for link&lt;br /&gt;
Not required. If variable omitted, automatically generates link to previous episode, whether page exists or not &lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |next&lt;br /&gt;
|Number of next episode for link&lt;br /&gt;
Not required. If variable omitted, automatically generates link to next episode, whether page exists or not&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |rebecca, bob, jay &amp;amp; evan&lt;br /&gt;
|Key for transcription, if rogue is absent, remove the appropriate variable&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!style=&amp;quot;background:#CCD9EA&amp;quot; |guest1&lt;br /&gt;
|Key for transcription, add initials used for guest&#039;s speech in transcription and their name. Where possible, add a Wikipedia link.&lt;br /&gt;
If no guests, remove variable&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!downloadLink&lt;br /&gt;
|Link to podcast download, taken from show notes&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!notesLink&lt;br /&gt;
|Link to show notes page&lt;br /&gt;
|-&lt;br /&gt;
!forumLink&lt;br /&gt;
|Link to episode discussion page on [http://sguforums.com/index.php?board=1.0 SGUforums.com]&lt;br /&gt;
|}&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Sirnova Wolf</name></author>
	</entry>
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